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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/2}{Valentin Vornicu}]
Let $P(x)$ be a polynomial of degree $n > 1$ with integer coefficients and let $k$ be a positive integer. Consider the polynomial $Q(x) = P(P(\ldots P(P(x)) \ldots ))$, where $P$ occurs $k$ times. Prove that there are at most $n$ integers $t$ such that $Q(t) = t$.
\flushright \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c6h101487}{(Link to AoPS)}
\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/11309}{ychjae}]
Oops :oops:
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/4683}{Nima Ahmadi Pour}]
My solution to this one:
If $a_{1}, a_{2},\ldots, a_{k}$ are points of a periodic orbit of $P$ ($P(a_{i})=a_{i+1}$) we have \[a_{2}-a_{1}\mid a_{3}-a_{2}\mid \ldots\mid a_{1}-a_{k}\mid a_{2}-a_{1}\] So we have $|a_{i+1}-a_{i}|$ is a constant. But this is impossible for $k>2$. (Guess why)
So all periodic orbits are of degree $1$ or $2$.
If we have no $2$nd degree periodic orbit we are done ($P(x)=x$ has at most $n$ roots)
If we have two $2$nd degree orbits like $(a,b)$ and $(c,d)$, then we have \[a-c\mid b-d\mid a-c\] So we have $|a-c|=|b-d|$ and similarly $|a-d|=|b-c|$ which easily proves that $a+b=c+d$. If we have a $2$nd degree orbit like $(a,b)$ and a fixed point $t$ then similarly we would have $t+t=a+b$. So now let just $u=a+b$ then all periodic points are the roots of equation $x+P(x)=u$ which obviously has at most $n$ roots.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/13790}{dule_00}]
\begin{tcolorbox}My solution to this one:
If $a_{1}, a_{2},\ldots, a_{k}$ are points of a periodic orbit of $P$ ($P(a_{i})=a_{i+1}$) we have \[a_{2}-a_{1}\mid a_{3}-a_{2}\mid \ldots\mid a_{1}-a_{k}\mid a_{2}-a_{1}\] \end{tcolorbox}
Can you explain me this, please?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/10512}{mathmanman}]
It follows from the well-known lemma that, for all integers $a, b$ ($a \neq b$), $a-b | P(a)-P(b)$.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/13790}{dule_00}]
O, thank you :blush:
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/141}{Soarer}]
\begin{tcolorbox} then $P(P(t))=t$ iff $P(t)\in S$\end{tcolorbox}
huh? why?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/11309}{ychjae}]
\begin{tcolorbox}[quote="ychjae"] then $P(P(t))=t$ iff $P(t)\in S$\end{tcolorbox}
huh? why?\end{tcolorbox}
Sorry, I make a very big mistake here :oops: .
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/1174}{darktreb}]
My question: does this problem still hold over the reals?
When I first saw it, I intuitively thought that the maximum possible cycle should be 2, because if you consider the graph of an arbitrary polynomial $f(x)$ of degree greater than 1, and the line $y = x$, then while you're iterating you're basically jumping from points on the function, to the line $y = x$, then back to the function, etc. So you're going around in a rectangular motion, and you either start diverging, start converging, or in the special case of an iteration of length 2, you create a perfect rectangle ($P(a) = b, P(b) = a$). Oh yeah and there's the case $P(a) = a$ as well, of course.
Since we are given a positive integer $k$, and the convergence case would require infinitely many iterations, my first instinct is that the problem still holds over real polynomials with real coefficients.
EDIT: Courtesy of Thomas Mildorf and Mathematica I see that it does not hold over all reals. Just pounding out the resulting polynomials from applying $P(P(x))$ for instance will give many distinct roots....
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/8980}{julien_santini}]
Maybe we should exploit the fact that $P$ divides iterations of $P$.
In the easiest case, $P^{(2)}=QP$, where $P^{(k)}=PoPo \dots oP$ ($k>1$ times). Now $P^{(2)}(t)=t=Q(t)P(t) \Rightarrow P(t)$ divides $t$. But also $P(t)=Q(P(t))t$, and t divides $P(t)$, meaning $|P(t)|=|t|$. Now we have at most $2n$ such $t$. How do you finish it for this case ?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/18317}{Centy}]
I feel slightly robbed by this question. For the case where the cycle length of $P(P\ldots P(x) \ldots ))$ is 3 or more, I quoted a famous problem out of from the USAMO in the 1970s, proved in Engel's Problem Solving.
I got nothing for quoting it whereas I would have got 3 for proving it.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/1598}{Arne}]
I also think some contestants got a serious advantage here. The problem from the USAMO is really famous, and it's also well known that any fixed point of $P \circ P \circ \cdots \circ P$ must be a fixed point of $P \circ P$.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/8628}{bodom}]
is this solution right?please read it and tell me :blush: because if it is then again this problem is not hard at all.if it's wrong then :blush: :blush: :blush: if $k=1$ it is obvious.if $k=2$
let's say that there are $n+1$(if there are more it is even better) integers $x$ such that $P(P(x))=x$.let $a_{1}> a_{2}>... > a_{(}n+1 )$ be those $n+1$ integers.we clearly have$a_{i}-a_{(}i+1) \mid P(a_{i})-P(a_{(}i+1)) \mid P(P(a_{i}))-P(P(a_{(}i+1)))=a_{i}-a_{(}i+1)$so $| P(a_{i})-P(a_{(}i+1)) |=a_{i}-a_{(}i+1)$.adding this for all $i=1,2,...,n$ we get that $|P(a_{1})-P(a_{2})|+....+|P(a_{n})-P(a_{(}n+1))|=a_{1}-a_{(}n+1)= |P(a_{1})-P(_{(}n+1))|$.
but$|P(a_{1})-P(a_{2})|+....+|P(a_{n})-P(a_{(}n+1))| \ge |P(a_{1})-P(_{(}n+1))|$.since in the last one we have equality then all $|P(a_{i})-P(_{(}i+1))|$have the same sign.
1)$P(a_{i})-P(_{(}i+1))>0$ =>$P(a_{i})-a_{i}=k$ for all $i=1,2,..,n+1$ =>$P(x)-x-k=0$ for n+1 numbers but this is a contradiction since P's degree is n
2)$P(a_{i})-P(a_{(}i+1))<0$=>$P(x)+x-k=0$ for n+1 numbers and again contradiction.
if $k>2$ again we easily get in the same way that $| P(a_{i})-P(a_{i}+1) |=a_{i}-a_{i}+1$ and this is just case $k=2$
i can't find any mistakes.are there any?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/651}{Pascual2005}]
well in Fact it is not a "hard" problem if you are used to polinomials! Obviouslyiy you have integeer coefficients you must use $a-b|p(a)-p(b)$ and later analitic properties: in this case analitic properties didnt help sou you only needed the divisibility and inequalities and some classical facts ( a polinomial of degree $n$ has $n$ roots)
And finally the key idea was considering the numbers $p_{k+1}(x)-p_{k}(x)$ which was typical since their sum telescope to what we wanted!
I didnt like about this problem some thinks, for example its ancestors
[url]http://www.kalva.demon.co.uk\/usa\/usa74.html[\/url]
However, It is not too bad if someone knewed that problem, it just told him there is no period of lenght 3, which I think many people thought whitout knowing it...
Edit: I didnt read whats before my post...
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/3431}{manuel}]
indeed, the "ancestror" that pascual says is a very famous and wellknown usamo problem.
in every olympiad training they teach it...
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/285}{harazi}]
What you forgot to say is that the problem appeared in a kind of romanian TST some very long time ago for k=2. And believe me, this case is not much more difficult than this problem.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/21129}{nik}]
I think there is simpler solution.
x-y | P(x)-P(y)
But also P(x)-P(y) | Q(x)-Q(y)
so, if Q(x)=x and Q(y)=y,
x-y | P(x)-P(y)
P(x)-P(y) | x-y. Then everything is clear.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/8628}{bodom}]
that's what i did.but after $|P(a_{i})-P(a_{j})|=|a_{i}-a_{j}|$ it's not so clear and you must see that ineq in order to conclude about the sign.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/21129}{nik}]
It follows:
If there are n+1 roots of Q(t) = t, a1 < a2 < a3 <... < a(n+1)
then we must have :
P(a1) < P(a2) <... < P(a(n+1)),
or P(a1) > P(a2) > ... > P(a(n+1)),
because if for some i<j<k P(a(i)), P(a(j)), P(a(k)) aren't sorted, we get contradiction. After this it's similar to another solutions.
I think it's easier than author's solution, and problem isn't hard.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/8628}{bodom}]
to nik:what's your argument for that contradiction?
ps:indeed there are solutions much easier then the author's
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/21129}{nik}]
Contradiction to |P(x)-P(y)|=|x-y|.
If we write it for a(i),a(j) a(j),a(k) , a(i),a(k) , the sum of the fist two must be equal to the third one. It's possible only in the case they're sorted.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/11748}{campos}]
i know it would seem like a commentary from a "bad loser", since i didn't solve this problem at the test, but this problem looks much more theoric than an olympiad-kind one... don't you think the same? i would have preferred another kind of problem
the purpose of the post is just to hear (read) some commentaries on that, instead of starting a discussion in which everybody will finish angry with everybody else.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/1598}{Arne}]
I think this problem is fine. It's beautiful and challenging, I don't see what's wrong with it.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/2639}{Peter}]
My main objection for this problem would be:\begin{tcolorbox}and it's also well known that any fixed point of $P \circ P \circ \cdots \circ P$ must be a fixed point of $P \circ P$.\end{tcolorbox}and this makes the problem really easy, showing independence of $k$. Moreover, it's rather easy to "guess" this, and state it accurately even if you didn't know the theorem. (which is kind of weak, but I'm sure it happens.)
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/1598}{Arne}]
Yes, I knew that fact, so I solved it very quickly...
But apparently this problem was not easy, since very few contestants solved it...
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/4243}{ondrob}]
I found this problem, maybe no easy, but certainly not hard. The only gun I was about to use was $x-y$ divide $P(x)-P(y)$. And it was quite straighforward with that... $x-y$ divide $|P(x)-P(y)|$ and it divide $Q(x)-Q(y)=x-y$ (when you suppose such $x,y$ for contradiction). so $|P(x)-P(y)|=|x-y|$ and you almost've got it :)
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/20415}{who}]
if we fix k is n best possible?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/4243}{ondrob}]
2who: I don't know whether I understand what are you asking for, but for every $k$ and every $n$ you can find such a polynomial $P(x)$, that $Q(x)=P_{k}(x)=x$ for $n$ integer values of $x$, just take: $P(x)=x+x(x-1)(x-2)\cdots(x-(n-1))$ and $x\in\{0,1,\ldots,n-1\}$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/6612}{marko avila}]
I Liked the problem but i think it definitely gives advantages to people who have experiences with polynomials then others. i dont have experience with polynomials. but then again it ocurred to me to use a-b |p(a)-p(b) but for some reason i thought that this property is too known and that the psc wouldnt dare to put a problem like that on the imo. i was wrong and this cost me my bornze medal . so my advice to anyone on the imo is : dont treat the imo as a competition and never think strategically because it can kill , moreover i think the whole point of the imo is to promote creativeness and not strategy.
anyway i still have next year. gold medal for sure!! (its not impossible) mexico got its first gold medal this year!!!!!!!!!
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/1372}{Ravi B}]
\begin{tcolorbox}The problem from the USAMO is really famous, and it's also well known that any fixed point of $P \circ P \circ \cdots \circ P$ must be a fixed point of $P \circ P$.\end{tcolorbox}
Yes, for example, that latter fact is basically Problem A6 from the Putnam 2000 contest:
[url]http://www.kalva.demon.co.uk\/putnam\/putn00.html[\/url].
And the result was known before that.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/3236}{test20}]
\begin{tcolorbox}I also think some contestants got a serious advantage here. The problem from the USAMO is really famous, and it's also well known that any fixed point of $P \circ P \circ \cdots \circ P$ must be a fixed point of $P \circ P$.\end{tcolorbox}
But Sharkosky's theorem does not give you integrality.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/64273}{trigg}]
I like this problem
it is a good but not hard problem
I think it is a good problem of polynomials in number theory :)
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/46163}{Altunshukurlu}]
http://www.4shared.com\/file\/145687043\/937791d5\/New_Word_2007_Document.html
Here is my solution ... I hope that it is true ...
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/191127}{sayantanchakraborty}]
For the sake of a contradiction let $t_1>t_2>\cdots>t_{n+1}$ be integers for which $Q(t)=t$.
Then $i_i-t_j \mid P(t_i)-P(t_j) \mid P(P(t_i))-P(P(t_j)) \cdots \mid P^k(t_i)-P^k(t_j)=t_i-t_j$
so $P(t_i)-P(t_j)=\pm(t_i-t_j)$
Now it is easy to show that either $P(t_i)-P(t_{i+1})=t_i-t_{i+1} \forall i=1,2,\cdots,n$ or $P(t_i)-P(t_{i+1})=t_{i+1}-t_i \forall i=1,2,\cdots,n$(For this we use the ordering we have assumed).
But both the system of equations yeild $P(t_i)=t_i \forall i=1,2,\cdots,n+1$ which contradicts the fact that $P(x)$ is a polynomial of degree $n$.
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\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/198687}{Legend-crush}]
let $a_1<a_2< .... < a_l $ be the fixed points of Q, and suppose $l\geq n+1$ and $S=\lbrace a_i\/ \ i\in [|1,l|] \rbrace $
\[(\forall (i,j)) \ a_i-a_j|P(a_i)-P(a_j) and P(a_i)-P(a_j)|Q(a_i)-Q(a_j) \]
it follows that $ (\forall (i,j)) \ |a_i-a_j|=|P(a_i)-P(a_j)| \Rightarrow (\forall (i,j)) \ |\frac{P(a_i)-P(a_j)}{a_i-a_j}|=1$
we can easily deduce that $ (\forall (i,j)) \ \frac{P(a_i)-P(a_j)}{a_i-a_j}=1 or (\forall (i,j)) \ \frac{P(a_i)-P(a_j)}{a_i-a_j}=-1$
WLOG $ (\forall (i,j)) \ \frac{P(a_i)-P(a_j)}{a_i-a_j}=1$ then by the mean value theorem\end{underlined} \[ (\forall i\in [|1,l-1|])(\exists c\in ]a_i,a_{i+1}[) \ P'(c)=1 \]
Thus the equation $P'(x)=1$ has $l-1\geq n$ solution. but P' has degree n-1 . Hence we found a contradiction.
As a conclusion: Q has at most n fixed points
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\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/165750}{mathdebam}]
Well I see a lot of "it is easy from here to prove this afterwards" kind of sentences which are not actually satisfying.Hence I am giving a solution with all the "dumb" steps and no step jumps. :p
Let the required fixed points of $Q$ be $a_1,a_2,..a_{n+1}$.
Now clearly $P(a_i)-P(a_j)|P^{k-1}(a_i)-P^{k-1}(a_j)$ as the polynomial is of integer coefficients.(note here $k \ge 2$)
But $P^{k-1}(a_i)-P^{k-1}(a_j)|P^{k}(a_i)-P^k(a_j)=a_i-a_j|P(a_i)-P(a_j).$
Hence $P(a_i)-P(a_j)=|a_i-a_j|$.Fine upto here.But then there are a lot of "ordering" and other arguments which I do not understand quite. :p
Hence let $P(a_i)-P(a_j)=a_i-a_j$ and $P(a_i)-P(a_k)=a_k-a_i$.Thus $P(a_k)-P(a_j)=2a_i-a_j-a_k$.Now WLOG let $P(a_j)-P(a_k)=a_j-a_k$We get $a_i=a_j$.Similarly the other case.Hence this case cannot happen.
So either $P(a_i)-P(a_j)=a_i-a_j$ or $P(_i)-P(a_j)=a_j-a_i$ for all $i,j$.
So either the polynomial $P(x)+x$or $P(x)-x$ is a constant polynomial.But that contradicts the lower bound of the degree of $P$. Thus done.
And yes it was a bit too easy for an $P5$ if I have not mistaken above. :p
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\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/64716}{mavropnevma}]
\begin{tcolorbox}And yes it was a bit too easy for an $P5$ if I have not mistaken above. :p\end{tcolorbox}
Well, the average score on it was $1.183$. One has to go back to 1996 to find a P5 with lower average ($0.493$), with the averages for the P2 higher.
If one goes forward, with the exceptions of P5 of 2010 ($0.930$) and P2 of 2011 ($0.652$), all other averages are again higher.
So the IMO community belies your feeling; in fact it was one of the most difficult P5\/P2 from the last twenty years!
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\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/165750}{mathdebam}]
Actually scores may be really misleading and people loose marks due to strange claims which they make and do not prove.And also the fact that it had an idea or a lemma which was previously in some USAMO has made maximum contestant to prove by using that lemma and thus neglecting the easier way.Anyways I may have made a mistake as well as this concept of "easy" or "hard" is a very much relative one.
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\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/243741}{anantmudgal09}]
Nice! :)
Suppose that the polynomial $Q(x)-x$ vanishes at $n+1$ distinct integer points $x_1<x_2<\dots<x_{n+1}$ and note that $x_i-x_j \mid P(x_i)-P(x_j)$ for all distinct $i$ and $j$. Observe that $$P(x_i)-P(x_j) \mid P^k(x_i)-P^k(x_j)=Q(x_i)-Q(x_j)=x_i-x_j$$ and it follows that $|P(x_i)-P(x_j)|=|x_i-x_j|$ for all $i$ and $j$. We obtain $$\sum_{i=1}^n |P(x_{i+1})-P(x_i)|=\sum_{i=1}^n (x_{i+1}-x_i)=(x_{n+1}-x_1)=|P(x_{n+1})-P(x_1)|=|\sum_{i=1}^n (P(x_{i+1})-P(x_i))|$$ yielding that the numbers $(P(x_{i+1})-P(x_i))$ ($i=1,2,\dots, n+1$) have the same sign. Thus, $P(x_i)=x_i$ for $i=1,2,\dots, n+1$ or $P(x_i)=-x_i$ for $i=1,2,\dots, n+1$. This is false as each of the polynomials $P(x)+x$ and $P(x)-x$ has degree $n \ge 2$ so they cannot have $n+1$ roots.
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\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/345008}{Kayak}]
Please proofread my solution :help:
[hide=Solution] We first prove the case for $k =1,2$, then we show that all cases are exactly equivalent to this. Also, we overuse the fact $a-b | P(a) -P(b)$.
\begin{bolded}Claim-1\end{bolded}: The problem holds true for $k=1,2$.
[hide=Proof] $k=1$ is trivial, because $P(x)-x$ can't assume more than $Deg[P]$ roots. Now, for $k=2$, note that the integers satisfying $P(P(x)) = x$ can be either fipo (short for fixed point, $P(x) = x$), or twin (the integes satisfying $P(P(x)) = x$, but $x \neq P(x)$).
If two distinct roots of $P(x)-x$ are integral, we claim no twin satisfies $P(P(x))$, which is [hide=indeed true.] Let the the two fipos be $P(f_1) = f_1$ and $P(f_2) = f_2$ with $f_1 \neq f_2$. Assume otherwise, such that $P(P(t)) = t$, $P(t) = \bar{t} \neq t$. Now, from the fact, we have $t-f_1 | P(t) - P(f_1) = \bar{t} - f_1 | P(\bar{t}) - P(f_1) = t-f_1$, so $t-f_1 = \pm {\bar{t} - f_1}$ (minus case is impossible) $ = f_1 - \bar{t} \Rightarrow t + \bar{t} = 2f_1$. Proceeding analogusly, we have $t + \bar{t} = 2f_2 \neq 2f_1 = 2f_1$, a contradiction. [\/hide], so all are fipos, so again applying FTA to $P(x)-x$, we're done.
So assume at most one fipo satisfies $P(P(x)) = x$ (so there must be atleast one twin satisfying it). We now prove that any integer satisfying the condition satisfies $P(x)+x = constant$, which is [hide=indeed true] Take the twins to be $t, \bar{t}$ such that $P(t) = \bar{t} \neq t$ and $P(\bar{t}) = t$, and any one other integer $x, y = P(x)$ such that $P(P(x)) = x$ (they might not be different)
Now note that applying the fact two times gives $t-x = \pm (\bar{t}-y)$. Assume for the sake of contradiction, $t-x = \bar{t} - y$, so $t - \bar{t} = x-y$. But applying the fact again, we get $\bar{t} -x = \pm(t - y)$. Now, the positivie sign can't happen (otherwise it would imply $(t, \bar{t}) = (x,y)$), so $t - \bar{t} = y-x = \bar{t} - t \Rightarrow t = \bar{t} \Rightarrow \text{Contradiction}$. [\/hide] So, all "pairwise" sums $P(x)+x$ is constant, so applying FTA on $G(x) := P(x)+x-constant$, we prove the claim [\/hide]
\begin{bolded} Claim-2 \end{bolded} The problem is equivalent to proving Claim-1
[hide=Proof] Let $Q_k(x)$ denote the $k$ fold iteration of $P$, e.g $Q_3(x) = P(P(P(x)))$. We prove that $Q_k(x) = x \Rightarrow Q_2(x) = x$. For $0<j<k$. Let $d_i = Q_{i+1} - Q_{ i}$. Now, applying the fact $k$ times, we have $|d_j| = |d_i| := d $, for any $0 < i, j <k$, so the claim is obvious. [\/hide][\/hide]
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\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/277546}{realquarterb}]
[hide=Sketch] So the idea here is to use the lemma $a-b|P(a)-P(b)$. A simple usage of this lemma gives us $|{P(a_{i+1})-P(a_{i})}|=|{a_{i+1}-a_{i}}|$. It follows that P(X)-X+C=0 for n+1 X, which is a contradiction by the degree of the polynomial. [\/hide]
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/89511}{dawn_pingpong}]
This may be posted at the wrong place, so if this is posted wrongly moderator please help to move:P
$a$ is a real root of the equation $x^5 - x^3 + x-2 = 0$. Find $\lfloor a^6\rfloor$
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}This may be posted at the wrong place, so if this is posted wrongly moderator please help to move:P
$a$ is a real root of the equation $x^5 - x^3 + x-2 = 0$. Find $\lfloor a^6\rfloor$\end{tcolorbox}
Let $f(x)=x^5-x^3+x-2$
$a^5-a^3+a-2=0$ $\implies$ $a\ne 0$ and $a^6=a^4-a^2+2a=\frac{2-a}a+2a=-1+2(a+\frac 1a)$
$f'(x)=5x^4-3x^2+1=5\left(x^2-\frac 3{10}\right)^2+\frac{11}{20}>0$ and $f(x)$ is increasing
$f(1)<0$ and $f(2)>0$ and so $a\in(1,2)$ and so $a+\frac 1a\in(2,\frac 52)$ and so $a^6=-1+2(a+\frac 1a)\in(3,4)$
And so $\boxed{\left\lfloor a^6\right\rfloor=3}$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/124745}{Uzbekistan}]
Easy.
$x^5-x^3+x=2\implies x^2(x^5-x^3+x)=2x^2\implies x^7-(x^5-x^3)=2x^2\implies x^7-(2-x)=2x^2\implies x^7+x=2x^2+2\implies x(x^6+1)=2(x^2+1)>2\cdot 2x\implies x^6+1>4\implies x^6>3$
and $x^5+x=2+x^3\implies \frac{x^5+x}{x^3}=\frac{2+x^3}{x^3}=x^2+\frac{1}{x^2}\geq 2\implies \frac{2+x^3}{x^3}\geq 2\implies x^3\leq 2\implies x^6\leq 4$
Then $3<x^6<4\implies \boxed{\left\lfloor a^{6}\right\rfloor=3} $
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}$x^3\leq 2\implies x^6\leq 4$\end{tcolorbox}
What about $x^3=-5$ ?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/124745}{Uzbekistan}]
\begin{tcolorbox}[quote="Uzbekistan"]$x^3\leq 2\implies x^6\leq 4$\end{tcolorbox}
What about $x^3=-5$ ?\end{tcolorbox}
Yes you are right! But you can see second part $x^6>3$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}[quote="pco"]\begin{tcolorbox}$x^3\leq 2\implies x^6\leq 4$\end{tcolorbox}
What about $x^3=-5$ ?\end{tcolorbox}
Yes you are right! But you can see second part $x^6>3$ \end{tcolorbox}
So first part proved that $x^6\ge 0$ and second part proved that $x^6>3$. So .... what ?
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/80177}{smart of math}]
find the number of the third degree polynomials $P(x) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d$ such that the coefficients $a,b,c,d$ belong to the set ${0,1,2,3}$ and $P(2)$ not equal $12$ .
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}find the number of the third degree polynomials $P(x) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d$ such that the coefficients $a,b,c,d$ belong to the set ${0,1,2,3}$ and $P(2)$ not equal $12$ .\end{tcolorbox}
Considering $a>0$, the only such polynomials with $P(2)=12$ are obviously :
$x^3+x^2$
$x^3+2x$
$x^3+x+2$
$x^3+4$
And since we have a total of $3\times 4^3$ third degree polynomials whose all coefficients $\in\{0,1,2,3\}$, the required number is
$192-4=\boxed{188}$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/80177}{smart of math}]
\begin{tcolorbox}[quote="smart of math"]find the number of the third degree polynomials $P(x) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d$ such that the coefficients $a,b,c,d$ belong to the set ${0,1,2,3}$ and $P(2)$ not equal $12$ .\end{tcolorbox}
Considering $a>0$, the only such polynomials with $P(2)=12$ are obviously :
$x^3+x^2$
$x^3+2x$
$x^3+x+2$
$x^3+4$
And since we have a total of $3\times 4^3$ third degree polynomials whose all coefficients $\in\{0,1,2,3\}$, the required number is
$192-4=\boxed{188}$\end{tcolorbox}
nice but $4 \in\{0,1,2,3\}$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}[quote="pco"]\begin{tcolorbox}find the number of the third degree polynomials $P(x) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d$ such that the coefficients $a,b,c,d$ belong to the set ${0,1,2,3}$ and $P(2)$ not equal $12$ .\end{tcolorbox}
Considering $a>0$, the only such polynomials with $P(2)=12$ are obviously :
$x^3+x^2$
$x^3+2x$
$x^3+x+2$
$x^3+4$
And since we have a total of $3\times 4^3$ third degree polynomials whose all coefficients $\in\{0,1,2,3\}$, the required number is
$192-4=\boxed{188}$\end{tcolorbox}
nice but $4 \in\{0,1,2,3\}$\end{tcolorbox}
I suppose you mean $4\notin\{0,1,2,3\}$
If so, I'm sorry for my little mistake and result becomes $192-3=\boxed{189}$
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/10045}{socrates}]
Find all polynomials $P(x)$ such that there is some polynomial $Q(x)$ so that the following equation holds: \[P\left(x^{2} \right)+ Q\left(x \right)=P\left(x \right)+x^{5}Q\left(x \right)\]
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Find all polynomials $P(x)$ such that there is some polynomial $Q(x)$ so that the following equation holds: \[P\left(x^{2} \right)+ Q\left(x \right)=P\left(x \right)+x^{5}Q\left(x \right)\]\end{tcolorbox}
So we are looking for polynomials $P(x)$ such that $x^5-1|P(x^2)-P(x)$
$\iff$ $P(e^{i\frac{4k\pi}5})=P(e^{i\frac{2k\pi}5})$ for $k\in\{0,1,2,3,4\}$
$\iff$ $P(e^{i\frac{2k\pi}5})=c$ for $k\in\{1,2,3,4\}$
$\iff$ $x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1|P(x)-c$
Hence the answer : $\boxed{P(x)=c+(x^4+x^3+x^2+1)A(x)}$ for any $x\in\mathbb R$ and any $A(x)\in\mathbb R[X]$ which indeed are solutions
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/121558}{Bigwood}]
Maybe it is straightforward that $P(x^2)-P(x)\equiv P'(x^2)-P'(x)(mod\ x^5-1)$ when $P(x)\equiv P'(x)(mod\ x^5-1)$. Then you have only to calculate. (Hint; Consider the case of $P(x)=x^n$.)
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Maybe it is straightforward that $P(x^2)-P(x)\equiv P'(x^2)-P'(x)(mod\ x^5-1)$ when $P(x)\equiv P'(x)(mod\ x^5-1)$. Then you have only to calculate. (Hint; Consider the case of $P(x)=x^n$.)\end{tcolorbox}
Could you kindly give us your complete (up to the end of calculus) straightforward proof, please ?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/121558}{Bigwood}]
$x^{2n}-x^n\equiv x^2-x,x^4-x^2,x-x^3,x^3-x^4,0 (mod\ x^5-1)$, and the $RHS$ depends on $n (mod\ 5)$.
Let $P(x)\equiv ax^4+bx^3+cx^2+dx+e\ (\ mod\ x^5-1)$.
$P(x^2)-P(x)\equiv (c-a)x^4+(a-b)x^3+(d-c)x^2+(b-d)x\ (mod\ x^5-1)$. Then we get $a=b=c=d$ because $P(x^2)-P(x)\equiv 0$.
Hence the result; $P(x)=R(x)(x^4+x^3+x^2+x+1)+c$.
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/92334}{vanstraelen}]
Given a polynomial $V(x) = x^{3}+2x^{2}+x+ c $.
a) To prove: there exists an infinite number of polynomials $x^{2}+p x +q$ with roots $\alpha$ and $\beta$, so that $V(\alpha)=V(\beta)$.
b) Calculate $p$ and $q$ to find that polynomial $x^{2}+p x +q$.
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Given a polynomial $V(x) = x^{3}+2x^{2}+x+ c $.
a) To prove: there exists an infinite number of polynomials $x^{2}+p x +q$ with roots $\alpha$ and $\beta$, so that $V(\alpha)=V(\beta)$.
b) Calculate $p$ and $q$ to find that polynomial $x^{2}+p x +q$.\end{tcolorbox}
I suppose we consider only real roots.
$V(a)=V(b)$ $\iff$ $(a-b)((a+b)^2+2(a+b)-ab+1)=0$ and so two cases :
Either $a=b$ and so two equal roots $\iff$ $p^2-4q=0$
Either $a\ne b$ and so $p^2-4q>0$ and $p^2-2p-q+1=0$ $\iff$ $q=(p-1)^2$ with $q<\frac{p^2}4$
And so $\boxed{q=\frac {p^2}4\text{ or }\left(p\in(\frac 23,2)\text{ and }q=(p-1)^2\right)}$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/92334}{vanstraelen}]
Can you clarify: $p\in(\frac{2}{3},2) $ ?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Can you clarify: $p\in(\frac{2}{3},2) $ ?\end{tcolorbox}
We have $q=(p-1)^2$ and $p^2-4q>0$
So $p^2-4(p-1)^2>0$
So $(2-p)(3p-2)>0$
So $p\in(\frac 23,2)$
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/132970}{alis678}]
Let $f\in \mathbb{R}[X]$ a polynomial with the degree greater than or equal to $2$. If $f$ is divided by $x+1$ we get the remainder $2$ and it is also given that $(x+1)f(x)+xf(x+3)=1,\ \forall x$. Find the remainder obtained when $f$ is divided by $x^2-x-2$.
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Let $f\in \mathbb{R}[X]$ a polynomial with the degree greater than or equal to $2$. If $f$ is divided by $x+1$ we get the remainder $2$ and it is also given that $(x+1)f(x)+xf(x+3)=1,\ \forall x$. Find the remainder obtained when $f$ is divided by $x^2-x-2$.\end{tcolorbox}
From "If $f$ is divided by $x+1$ we get the remainder $2$", we get $f(-1)=2$
From "$(x+1)f(x)+xf(x+3)=1,\ \forall x$, we get (set $x=-1$) $f(2)=-1$
Writing $f(x)=(x^2-x-2)g(x)+ax+b$, we get :
$x=-1$ $\implies$ $-a+b=2$
$x=2$ $\implies$ $2a+b=-1$
So $a=-1$ and $b=1$ and the requested remainder is $\boxed{-x+1}$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/61082}{Pain rinnegan}]
The solution given by pco is correct, but the problem is wrong as stated. Can you notice the error?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}The solution given by pco is correct, but the problem is wrong as stated. Can you notice the error?\end{tcolorbox}
Ahhhhhh yes
No such polynomial exists!
Just looking at the highest degree summand in $(x+1)f(x)+xf(x+3)=1$ shows it.
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/114585}{anonymouslonely}]
Find all polynomials such that $ f(x^{2})=f^{2}(x)+2f(x) $ and the function $ g $ defined on the real numbers and real valued such that $ g(x)=f(x) $ is bijective.
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/31919}{tenniskidperson3}]
Replace $x$ with $-x$ to see that $f^2(x)-2f(x)=f^2(-x)-2f(-x)$. That is, $(f(x)-f(-x))(f(x)+f(-x)-2)=0$. So one of the polynomials $f(x)-f(-x)$ or $f(x)+f(-x)-2$ has an infinite number of roots, and is thus identically 0. It can't be $f(x)-f(-x)$ because $f$ is bijective from $\mathbb{R}$ to $\mathbb{R}$. So that means that $f(x)+f(-x)-2=0$ for all $x$. In particular, $f(0)=1$. But letting $x=0$ in the original equation gives $f(0)=f^2(0)-2f(0)$ which means $1=1-2$ or $-1=1$, which is not true. Therefore there are no such polynomials.
Unless $f^2(x)$ means $f(f(x))$ in which case the polynomial must have degree 2, but then it is still not bijective. So there are no solutions either way you read the notation.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/114585}{anonymouslonely}]
yes...sorry.... I made a mistake. look at this now.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Find all polynomials such that $ f(x^{2})=f^{2}(x)+2f(x) $ and the function $ g $ defined on the real numbers and real valued such that $ g(x)=f(x) $ is bijective.\end{tcolorbox}
So $f^2(x)+2f(x)=f^2(-x)+2f(-x)$ and so $(f(x)-f(-x))(f(x)+f(-x)+2)=0$ and since $f(x)$ is injective, $f(x)+f(-x)+2=0$
So $f(x)+1$ is an odd polynomial and we can write $f(x)=xh(x^2)-1$ where $h(x)\in\mathbb R[X]$
Plugging this in original equation, we get $h(x^4)=h(x^2)^2$ and so (since polynomial) $h(x^2)=h(x)^2$
This is a very classical equation whose only polynomial solutions are $h(x)=0$ and $h(x)=x^n$ (with $n\in\mathbb N\cup\{0\}$)
$h(x)=0$ implies $f(x)=-1$ which is not a solution
$h(x)=x^n$ implies $\boxed{f(x)=x^{2n+1}-1}$ which indeed is a solution
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29034}{newsun}]
Find $m, n, p $ be positive integer numbers such that the polynomial $ x^{3m}-x^{3n+1}+x^{3p+2} $ divisible by $ x^2-x+1 $
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Find $m, n, p $ be positive integer numbers such that the polynomial $ x^{3m}-x^{3n+1}+x^{3p+2} $ divisible by $ x^2-x+1 $\end{tcolorbox}
The two roots of $x^2-x+1$ are $e^{i\frac{\pi}3}$ and $e^{-i\frac{\pi}3}$
So we want :
1) $e^{im\pi}-e^{i\frac{\pi}3+in\pi}$ $+e^{i\frac{2\pi}3+ip\pi}=0$
which implies $(-1)^m-(-1)^ne^{i\frac{\pi}3}$ $+(-1)^pe^{i\frac{2\pi}3}=0$ and so $m\equiv n\equiv p\pmod 2$
2) $e^{-im\pi}-e^{-i\frac{\pi}3-in\pi}$ $+e^{-i\frac{2\pi}3-ip\pi}=0$
which implies $(-1)^m-(-1)^ne^{-i\frac{\pi}3}$ $+(-1)^pe^{-i\frac{2\pi}3}=0$ and so again $m\equiv n\equiv p\pmod 2$
Hence the answer $\boxed{m\equiv n\equiv p\pmod 2}$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/140796}{mathbuzz}]
put x=-w and x=-w^2 in the polynomial and try
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/89198}{chaotic_iak}]
Let $P$ be a polynomial with real coefficients. Find all functions $f : \mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R}$ such that there exists a real number $t$ such that
\[f(x+t) - f(x) = P(x)\]
for all $x \in \mathbb{R}$.
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Let $P$ be a polynomial with real coefficients. Find all functions $f : \mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R}$ such that there exists a real number $t$ such that
\[f(x+t) - f(x) = P(x)\]
for all $x \in \mathbb{R}$.\end{tcolorbox}
Choose any $t\ne 0$ and define $f(x)$ as any function you want over $[0,t)$ and by the induction formulas :
$f(x+t)=f(x)+P(x)$
$f(x-t)=f(x)-P(x)$
And you get all the solutions, built piece per piece.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/96532}{dgrozev}]
\begin{tcolorbox}
Choose any $t\ne 0$ and define $f(x)$ as any function you want over $[0,t)$ and by the induction formulas :
$f(x+t)=f(x)+P(x)$
$f(x-t)=f(x)-P(x)$
And you get all the solutions, built piece per piece.\end{tcolorbox}
I think it is just a typo, but it should be:
...
$f(x-t)=f(x)-P(x-t)$.
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/127400}{MSMS}]
Find a polynomial satisfying:
$\left\{ \begin{array}{l}
Q\left( 2 \right) = 12 \\
Q\left( {{x^2}} \right) = {x^2}\left( {{x^2} + 1} \right)Q\left( x \right),\forall x \in R \\
\end{array} \right.$
Thanks you!
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Find a polynomial satisfying:
$\left\{ \begin{array}{l}
Q\left( 2 \right) = 12 \\
Q\left( {{x^2}} \right) = {x^2}\left( {{x^2} + 1} \right)Q\left( x \right),\forall x \in R \\
\end{array} \right.$
Thanks you!\end{tcolorbox}
So $Q(x)$ is an even polynomial with degree 4 and so $Q(x)=ax^4+bx^2+c$
And so $ax^8+bx^4+c=x^2(x^2+1)(ax^4+bx^2+c)$ and so $c=0$ and $b=-a$ and we get $Q(x)=ax^4-ax^2$
And $Q(2)=12$ gives the unique solution $\boxed{Q(x)=x^4-x^2}$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/127400}{MSMS}]
\begin{tcolorbox}So is an even polynomial with degree 4 and so $Q\left( x \right) = a{x^4} + b{x^2} + c$\end{tcolorbox}
Pco! Why? Please explain it?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}[quote]So is an even polynomial with degree 4 and so $Q\left( x \right) = a{x^4} + b{x^2} + c$\end{tcolorbox}
Pco! Why? Please explain it?\end{tcolorbox}
1) Replacing $x$ by $-x$ in second equation, we get $x^2(x^2+1)Q(x)=x^2(x^2+1)Q(-x)$ and so $Q(x)$ is even
2) Considering that $Q(x)$ is not constant (since $Q(x)=2$ $\forall x$ is not a solution) and so that degree of $Q(x)$ is $n>0$ and looking at second equation, we get degree of LHS is $2n$ while degree of RHS is $n+4$
So $2n=n+4$ and so $n=4$
So $Q(x)$ is an even polynomial with degree 4
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/43631}{mathwizarddude}]
Let $f(x),g(x)$ be nonzero polynomials, with $f(x^2+x+1)=f(x)g(x)$. Show that $f(x)$ has even degree.
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Let $f(x),g(x)$ be nonzero polynomials, with $f(x^2+x+1)=f(x)g(x)$. Show that $f(x)$ has even degree.\end{tcolorbox}
If $f$ has an odd degree, then it has at least one real root $u$.
Considering then the increasing sequence $x_0=u$ and $x_{n+1}=x_n^2+x_n+1$, we see that $f(x_n)=0$ $\forall x$ and so that $f(x)$ has infinitely many distinct real roots, which is impossible since $f(x)$ is not the zero polynomial.
Q.E.D.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/64716}{mavropnevma}]
And to show that there exist such polynomials with even degree larger than $0$, it is enough to see that for $f(x) = x^2+1$, $g(x) = f(x+1)$, we have $f(x^2+x+1) = (x^2+1)((x+1)^2 + 1) = f(x)g(x)$.
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/145455}{faithjeff1993}]
let f(x) and g(x) be quadratic function with real coefficient, for x>0,if g(x) is a integer, then f(x) is a integer, prove that there exist integers M,N, such that f(x)=Mg(x)+N
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/145455}{faithjeff1993}]
who can help me?
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}let f(x) and g(x) be quadratic function with real coefficient, for x>0,if g(x) is a integer, then f(x) is a integer, prove that there exist integers M,N, such that f(x)=Mg(x)+N\end{tcolorbox}
Nobody can help you since your problem is obviously wrong.
Choose as counter-example $f(x)=x^2+x+1$ and $g(x)=x^2$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/69901}{dinoboy}]
@pco
Notice that $x = \sqrt{2}$ has $g(x)$ is an integer while $f(x)$ is not, so your counterexample does not work.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
@dinoboy
You are quite right.
Sorry both for this wrong post. :blush:
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/69901}{dinoboy}]
First of all the condition $x > 0$ is useless. It only introduces the complication that there are finitely many exceptions when we consider all real $x$.
First remark multiplying $g(x)$ by $-1$ does not change the result, nor does adding an integer to it (applying the same transformations on $f$ has the same result of not changing the truthfulness of the result). Furthermore, if we change $f(x), g(x)$ both into $f(x-a), g(x-a)$ for a real number $a$ the truthfulness is not changed.
Hence we shift $g$ to be symmetric about the origin and be of the form $g(x) = ax^2 + b$ for $a,b \ge 0$ and we can assume $f$ is a quadratic with positive leading coefficient which has no real roots. It follows for all sufficiently large $c$ a positive integer, we have $g(\pm \sqrt{(c-b)\/a})$ are integers and hence $f(\pm \sqrt{(c-b)\/a})$ are integers as well. Let $x_c = \sqrt{(c-b)\/a}$ and $y_c = f(x_c), z_c = f(-x_c)$ when $c$ is big enough. Let $f(x) = dx^2 + ex + f$. Remark that $z_n - y_n$ is always an integer.
But $z_n - y_n = 2ex_n$. Hence for all $x_n$, we need $2ex_n$ to be an integer. But this is obviously false unless $e \neq 0$ because $2ex_{n+1} - 2ex_n$ approaches $0$ as $n$ grows large, hence $e=0$.
Therefore we have reduced the problem to $g(x) = ax^2 + b, f(x) = dx^2 + f$. We need for all big enough integers $c$ that $\frac{d(c-b)}{a} + f$ is an integer. This means $\frac{d}{a}$ is an integer. Hence it suffices for $\frac{-db}{a} + f$ is an integer. By shifting $f(x)$ appropriately we can get it to equal $0$, as $f = (d\/a) \cdot b$. It follows $f(x) = g(x) \cdot (d\/a)$ where $d\/a$ is an integer, and hence we are done.
EDIT : Thanks bzprules, fixed the typo.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/145455}{faithjeff1993}]
elegant!
many thx!
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/60729}{GlassBead}]
Oh, you have one small typo:
\begin{tcolorbox}
But $z_n - y-n = 2ex_n$. Hence for all $x_n$, we need $2ex_n$ to be an integer.
\end{tcolorbox}
This should be $y_n$.
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/132519}{siavosh}]
assume $ P(x)= x^3+ax^2+bx+c$ which $ ab=9c , b<0$ show $P$ have three different root in real number.
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}assume $ P(x)= x^3+ax^2+bx+c$ which $ ab=9c , b<0$ show $P$ have three different root in real number.\end{tcolorbox}
let $P(x)=x^3+ax^2+bx+\frac{ab}9$
Then $P(\frac {x-a}3)=\frac{x^3+3(3b-a^2)x+2a(a^2-3b)}{27}$
Applying Cardano's method to $x^3+3(3b-a^2)x+2a(a^2-3b)=0$ with $p=3(3b-a^2)$ and $q=2a(a^2-3b)$, we get $27q^2+4p^3=324b(a^2-3b)^2<0$
hence the result.
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/127783}{Sayan}]
Consider the equation $x^5+x=10$. Show that
(a) the equation has only one real root;
(b) this root lies between $1$ and $2$;
(c) this root must be irrational.
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Consider the equation $x^5+x=10$. Show that
(a) the equation has only one real root;
(b) this root lies between $1$ and $2$;
(c) this root must be irrational.\end{tcolorbox}
$f(x)=x^5+x-10$ is stricly increasing and so at most one real root.
$f(1)<0$ and $f(2)>0$ and so at least one real root in $(1,2)$
So exactly one real root $r$ and $r\in(1,2)$
If $r=\frac pq$ with $q>0$ and $\gcd(|p|,q)=1$, then $p^5+pq^4-10q^5=0$ and so $q|p^5$ and so $q=1$ and $r\in\mathbb Z$, impossible since $1<r<2$
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/123851}{ctumeo}]
a) $x^5=-x+10$
$y=x^5$ and $y=-x+10$ intersect only in a point
b) Assign values and is easy to verify
c) Rational roots lies between divisors of $10$. Easy to verify that can't be
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/140796}{mathbuzz}]
let $f(x)=x^5+x-10$ , then $f '(x)=5x^4+1>0$ for all $x \in R$ .so , the function is strictly increasing over $R$
hence there exist at most one real root. $f(1)=-8$ ,$f(2)=24$ , so , there exists some $c \in (1,2) $ such that $f(c)=0$. so , there exists only one real root which is in $(1,2)$. if possible ,let the root be rational. then the root must be an integer which lies between 1 and 2 ,which is not possible. hence the root is irrational :D
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/87452}{Agung}]
Define the functions \[ f(x) = x^5+5x^4+5x^3+5x^2+1\] \[g(x) =x^5+5x^4+3x^3-5x^2-1\]
Find all prime numbers $p$ for which there exists a natural number $ 0 < x < p $, such that both $f(x)$ and $g(x)$ are divisible by $p$, and for each such $p$, find all such $x$.
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Define the functions \[ f(x) = x^5+5x^4+5x^3+5x^2+1\] \[g(x) =x^5+5x^4+3x^3-5x^2-1\]
Find all prime numbers $p$ for which there exists a natural number $ 0 < x < p $, such that both $f(x)$ and $g(x)$ are divisible by $p$, and for each such $p$, find all such $x$.\end{tcolorbox}
$p|f(x)$ and $p|g(x)$ imply $p|f(x)+g(x)=2x^3(x+1)(x+4)$
$p=2$ is not a solution since both $f(x)$ and $g(x)$ are odd when $x\in\mathbb N$ and since $x\not\equiv 0\pmod p$, we get :
either $x\equiv -1\pmod p$ and then $f(x)\equiv 5\pmod p$ and so $p=5$, which indeed is a solution and so $x=4$
either $x\equiv -4\pmod p$ and then $f(x)\equiv 17\pmod p$ and so $p=17$, which indeed is a solution and so $x=13$
Hence the result $\boxed{(x,p)\in\{(4,5),(13,17)\}}$
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/122611}{oty}]
Find all polynomials $P\in \mathbb{K}[X]$ s.t $P'$ divide $P$ .
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/76247}{yugrey}]
Well, all the roots of P' must be roots of P, and thus double roots of P.
Thus, the answer is all polynomials whose roots all have multiplicity greater than one, and only those.
I believe that by K(x) you mean C(x).
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Find all polynomials $P\in \mathbb{K}[X]$ s.t $P'$ divide $P$ .\end{tcolorbox}
$P(x)$ is not a constant polynomial in order sentence "$P'$ divides $P$" being meaningful.
So $P(x)=(ax+b)P'(x)$ with $a\ne 0$ (looking at degrees of $P$ and $P'$) and so $\frac{P'}P=\frac 1{ax+b}$ for all $x$ but roots of $P$
This last equation implies $P=\alpha(x+c)^{\frac 1a}$
Hence the answer : $\boxed{P(x)=a(x+b)^n}$ for any $n\in\mathbb N$
@yugrey : your condition is necessary, but not sufficient. Choose for example $P(x)=x^2(x+1)^2$ which fits your requirements but $P'(x)=2x(x+1)(2x+1)$ does not divide $P(x)$
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\begin{problem}[Posted by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29034}{newsun}]
Prove that $p(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d >0 $ forall $ x \in \mathbb{R}$ then p(x) can be reprsented as sum of two polynomials of degrê 2
[color=#FF0000][Mod: Give your topics a better title than "help."][\/color]
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\end{problem}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Prove that $p(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d >0 $ forall $ x \in \mathbb{R}$ then p(x) can be reprsented as sum of two polynomials of degrê 2\end{tcolorbox}
Certainly not : a sum of two polynomials of degree 2 is at most of degree 2.
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29034}{newsun}]
I mean sum of square
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29034}{newsun}]
Please help me pco!
\end{solution}
\begin{solution}[by \href{https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/user/29428}{pco}]
\begin{tcolorbox}Prove that $p(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d >0 $ forall $ x \in \mathbb{R}$ then p(x) can be reprsented as sum of squares of two polynomials of degrê 2\end{tcolorbox}
Since $P(x)>0$ $\forall x$, we can write $P(x)=(x-z_1)(x-\overline{z_1})(x-z_2)(x-\overline{z_2})$ for some $z_1,z_2\in\mathbb C\setminus\mathbb R$
Writing then $P(x)=A(x)^2+B(x)^2$, we get :
$A(z_1)=\pm iB(z_1)$
$A(z_2)=\pm iB(z_2)$