Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 not working

[ifighftdragons]

Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 gives this error in AmigaDOS:

"type failed returncode 20"

As a consequence, it does not boot.

Hopefully this can be fixed, as it's arguably one of, if not, the best Amiga game.

[hallucino]

It is working for me, it is a little bit slow to load but works great

[ifighftdragons]

It is working for me, it is a little bit slow to load but works great

Would you mind sharing exactly how you got it to work, like various settings and disk drive setup?

And are you sure you're specifically playing SWOS 96-97, and not one of the many other SWOS games?

[hallucino]

I have Sensible World of Soccer (1996)(-)(Disk 1 of 2) and Disk 2/2.

You need to change the RAM to 1MB and load the first disk (disk 0) then it will ask you to load the second disk (disk 0), that's all I did.

[ifighftdragons]

Sensible World of Soccer (1996)(-)(Disk 1 of 2)

So, that's not the same game. You're playing the regular Sensible World of Soccer game, re-released in '96.

The game I'm talking about is specifically Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97. (Because it's from the '96-'97 soccer season).
This is the latest and best version of SWOS.

Can you try that game, and see if you can get it to work?

Thanks for trying to help.

[hallucino]

Any hints to get a rom that works in classic emulator ?

[ifighftdragons]

Not sure how that is relevant to getting it to work on Analogue Pocket? Plus, it's not allowed to discuss rom sites and downloads.

However, you can easily find it by using google and keywords such as the correct game title + adf rom

[hallucino]

I'm getting an error too with this version

[terminator2k2]

have you tried this since maz updated the core? seems to work fine here...

[ifighftdragons]

have you tried this since maz updated the core? seems to work fine here...

That's awesome, if it actually works now.
Just tried, but couldn't get it to work.

What version of the kickstart are you using?
And what are your other settings? Would you mind listing them so I can replicate?

[terminator2k2]

name of disk: Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][f Codetapper].adf

kickstart 1.3
OG/Turbo/Pal
68k cpu
2mb chip
1.5mb slow
8mb/none fast

this one gave me an error on kick 1.3 :

Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][KS2.0].adf

but works ok with kickstart 3.1.4 ( take it [KS2.0] means kickstart 2.0 or higher)

this one gives guru med red screen of death

Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][update data disk][req. old swos disk 1].adf

[ifighftdragons]

name of disk: Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][f Codetapper].adf

kickstart 1.3 OG/Turbo/Pal 68k cpu 2mb chip 1.5mb slow 8mb/none fast

this one gave me an error on kick 1.3 :

Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][KS2.0].adf

but works ok with kickstart 3.1.4 ( take it [KS2.0] means kickstart 2.0 or higher)

this one gives guru med red screen of death

Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][update data disk][req. old swos disk 1].adf

I'll number my feedback, to make the long messages more easy to digest:

1. What's your settings for "Installed Floppy Disks" ?
2. Do you load this as "Load Floppy Drive 0" ?
3. Since this is a multi-disk game: What happens when it's time to load Disk 2/2 ? Or can you just play the entire game with the first disk?
4. You mentioned 2 specific versions that worked? I'm not bad at finding games or googling, but I honestly can't find either of these:
   Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][f Codetapper].adf
   Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][KS2.0].adf
   I can find similarly named versions, but none with Codetapper og KS2.0 in the title.
   I can find a couple of mentions of them in old forums, but no place to actually find them.
   I have very similarly titled .adf files, but not identical. They will not run.

[terminator2k2]

are you on classic gaming or fpgaming discord at all ?

[ifighftdragons]

I'm not on discord

[terminator2k2]

ah ok, could of pm'd you

i use df0 and load disks to df0 when it asks

[ifighftdragons]

Right on.

What's your settings for "Installed Floppy Disks" ? It's where you can select number of drives and their speed.

If I could just find a workable .adf now, I'd be off and running.

[terminator2k2]

4 drive 2x speed

[Mazamars312]

This was one thing I hated about the amiga, there are so many configs that are required for each game including bios

[ifighftdragons]

This was one thing I hated about the amiga, there are so many configs that are required for each game including bios

Absolutely. Can't believe all the hoops I've jumped through to get some games running. And not without help from you and terminator2k2!

Hopefully the core will further evolve into an easier Amiga life, as has already proven to be the case. Great job! Sorry for off-topic rant.

[hallucino]

What are the second adf you use with "Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][f Codetapper].adf" ?

[terminator2k2]

What are the second adf you use with "Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr HF][f Codetapper].adf" ?

Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97 (1996-11-06)(Renegade)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr HF].adf

[limi]

For what it’s worth, this game seems to work perfectly using the https://amiga.vision setup if you don’t want to deal with all the configuration yourself.

[Romanista345]

@limi unfortunately it doesn't save and load doesn't work, while it worked it the previous setup, I filed a ticket on their website amigavision/AmigaVision#109 (ah I think you found It there

[Romanista345]

for my personal use I found this workaround now,

start amiga vision, then put in the floppy version of swos 2023, rest
and then when loaded put in a save disk

then saving to adf works