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Towards FATES w/ land use #450
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staring at this some more. a couple other things:
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Thanks, Charlie. It's great to have a central source for information and tracking purposes, and this thread is a great start.
Should C be added as an option here? If FATES offers a volume-driven entry point, would it then use internal wood densities for conversion to biomass and area? |
@bpbond yes, sorry, C mass is what I meant to say there, not volume. |
Hi @ckoven - thanks for starting this land use thread. This does a good job of summarizing our meetings, and glad that the larger FATES group can see these discussions and comment. I'll 'clean' up my notes document from our AGU meeting, as it still has some short-hand notes that I took during the meeting. The 1 - 5 steps look great. I would really like to help on a one or two of these steps, and then some future steps as well. I also see a need, and have an interest in step 5 and updating the disturbance model, so that it can handle multiple types of disturbances at the same time. This possible isn't as urgent as the other steps, but I can work on this. This does seem important when there are multiple smaller scale disturbances that when summed could add up to large areas being disturbance, but wouldn't have been previously accounted for. Potentially getting ahead of myself --- but in the future, I'd be interest in helping to bring in additional LULCC types. Charlie's work of creating the new secondary forest patches will be great lead to follow for this. It seems like some sage advice from @lawrencepj1 would help when integrating a full transition matrix of LULCC types. Anyway, I'd be interested in helping with this, when we are in the expanding land uses second phase. |
@jenniferholm awesome, thanks. |
Today there was a LULCC coordination discussion to bring together folks interested and actively working on this in both CLM and ELM. Action items:
document with notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ubiV1oW-8f0X47hj0aCkjT9NHJpuUmPQeKdjrahT2Xc/edit# tagging meeting participants: @ckoven @rosiealice @rgknox @adrifoster @aldivi @dlawrenncar @jenniferholm @JessicaNeedham @lawrencepj1 @lmkueppers @wwieder @sshu88 |
Thanks @sshu88 I added you in there. |
Consolidating issues: see #173 for information |
Noting the discussion today on the CLM call to advance both (a) pasture representation and (b) land-use dynamics more generally. A key action item was to re-prioritize adding the capability to pass to FATES the LUH2 transition matrix data. Some current (as well as old) discussion on that point is at ESCOMP/CTSM#1077. Will be good to have a follow-up discussion soon with both CTSM and ELM stakeholders so that we can make that happen. |
Also just wanted to note here for reference the slides and agenda/discussion from the discussion earlier today in the CLM meeting call. |
Edits. strikethrough-ing the text for things that we've done.
We've had a few meetings now to discuss how to get land use and land cover change fully integrated into FATES and working in both the E3SM and CESM systems. Our first meeting was at NCAR in March, 2017 (notes here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10VIAXlh2MDlc9QFdCdtY_h2esXXwHHPjLCAeFYwXOWc ), with a second meeting at the E3SM PI meeting in Nov, 2018 and a third discussion organized by @jenniferholm at AGU last week (notes here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a6M6bOuNs263xkvcAoAk21BVxY74XFdutjib019jtnI ). It seems like there is now sufficient momentum and desire across projects to make this happen, so I'd propose this thread as a central discussion and organization forum to organize discussion around.
We've decided on a two stage process to get LULCC working in FATES:
1. The first step is to use harvest timeseries as a driver of land use, where harvest drives a logging module, which then leads to generation of secondary forest patches that all sit on the same FATES site and ELM/CLM column.2. The second step is to integrate a full transition matrix with a more diverse set of LU/LC types. At this point, some goals are to have primary and secondary FATES lands sitting on separate columns, as well as (multiple) FATES columns coexisting with agriculture columns on the same gridcell. Here we could start to include more diverse land tiles like pasture, irrigated and/or fertilized plantation forests, etc. This is also where we will interface with the dynamic landunit infrastructure on both the CLM and ELM sides. [update: in process via #1040 ]
These steps correspond roughly to the center column and the right-hand-side column respectively of this diagram that I made after the March 2017 meeting:
For the purposes of sanity, let's restrict discussion on this thread to the things leading to step 1 above.
In the meeting at AGU, we identified several distinct pieces of development that need to happen. I'll try to list them here with some goals, milestones, and names of people possibly involved. Please correct me if I make any mistakes trying to summarize here. This is going to require fairly coordinated work by several people across institutions, so hopefully this thread can be a central place to discuss issues and progress as it arises.
1. Create a patch labelling system to separate primary and secondary lands, based on anthropogenic disturbance. For now, harvest is the only form of anthropogenic disturbance. Patches can only be fused with other patches of the same anthropogenic disturbance label. I volunteered to do this, and have a preliminary branch with this capability here: https://github.com/NGEET/fates/compare/master...ckoven:secondary_forest?w=1 Right now I am trying to test this and will issue a PR when I feel like I have something that works and makes sense. [update, PR in progress, #454]2. Ensure that ELM is ingesting the LUH2 harvest data and interpreting it in a way that is capable of passing the info to FATES through the interface. @bishtgautam volunteered to lead this.3. Create a land-use capability in the HLM/FATES interface so that both CLM and ELM can specify either a harvest wood volume or a harvest area, which FATES would then use to drive its land use dynamics. Also required is to then pass the harvest timeseries data through this interface on both the CLM and ELM sides. @rgknox has agreed to lead this effort. EDIT @sshu88 leading this5. We didn't discuss this in the meeting, but I thing that I've subsequently noticed and thought about is the way we handle disturbance, which is that in any given day from any given patch, we only actually use the largest single driver of disturbance on that day. I.e. we either do fire or gapfall or land use depending on which is largest, not all of them simultaneously. The error from this shouldn't be too bad if we do all of our harvest on one day per year, but if we spread it out over the year this could become a serious issue. And it might give weird outcomes if we do all of our harvest on one day per year. So it might require reworking the disturbance model a bit to handle multiple parallel types of disturbance. Just want to point this out now as a possible thing that might be required. @jkshuman @rosiealice @rgknox and I have discussed this issue in the past; perhaps this application might be a reason to tackle it for real.I'll cc all participants at last week's meeting here to make sure they are seeing this thread: @jenniferholm @ckoven @rgknox @rosiealice @dlawrenncar @kvcalvin @huangmy @bishtgautam @lawrencepj1 @jkshuman @bpbond @mpaiao. I'll also try to make a github "project" around this so we can track progress on this.
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