Human Behavior - Reducing bot detection

[BreezeRo]

These are a few ideas I was sitting on today that may help

• A fake "Home"? Perhaps the bot should have a "home" set in an area so that it goes to this location from time to time, especially before executing the sleep task (may appear more human, could even go as far as making sure the location is on a residential address (google api) )
  -- perhaps the periodic stops could be at locals (restaurants ie.) in the area near the player (using google api)

Also one small issue is that if the bot crashes there is a possibility it will not cache the proper last known location which results in possibly being detected as a teleport when the user relogs (since the cached coordinates do not match the server's)

[Arderos]

Another great idea is that bot should not walk through buildings. There is a bot called Hackemon that can do it, btw.

[BreezeRo]

that shouldn't be too hard using the map api still (for road directions for example)

[supercourgette]

Sorry it is already implemented, but here is a few more:

• For all kind of task (such as nicknaming, disregard items, ...) propose an random interval before the task is actually done / started.
• Do not always catch very common pokemons
• I don't know if rotation data are saved, but maybe sending realistic rotation data when walking / catching pokemons
• If it's already implemented, maybe propose a new config file with a realistic human behavior.

[ponytails]

what is this function for?

https://snag.gy/nwEkHs.jpg

please see the red circled... and kindly explain how does it help our bots

[gunarto90]

@ponytails I see that before they implemented this function, the bot always throws the pokeballs very accurately (maximum exp gained) which is kind of impossible for human to do. That snippets of code allow the user to set the probability of pokeball throw, either it is normal or nice or great or excellent.

Hope this helps answering your question.

[ponytails]

@gunarto90

thanks for that quick answer... but it seems i still get 210 exp each time i caught pokemon ?

[gunarto90]

@ponytails maybe you need to restart the bot to make the config file works

[ponytails]

i did... no error.. but still i get 210 exp.. not random exp

[gunarto90]

@ponytails hmm, I am not sure then. because yesterday, I am able to see the bot can get varying exp. but I can't try it today. My bot suddenly closed and cannot log in. so I might not be able to crosscheck with you.

[ponytails]

@gunarto90

oh.. alright.. i think because of massive banning from niantic..

[VictorChen]

I doubt they'll ban you because you never go "home". It's totally possible for a legit person to only play when they are outside. They're not gonna risk banning legit players unless they're 100% certain?

[andirapandi]

Walking and action randomization would be great and should be easy to do too.
Like give a range for the speed, do occasional breaks.
Same with actions: random waiting time before performaing actions.

[rahmanash777]

When niantic changed their response (unknown 6 issue) and developers tried to crack it, i read that they know (at least in theory) how niantic can detect bots etc and warned. So if some one can know the full details of that, we can develop a roundabout way and possibly bypass the ban.

[iruy]

@Arderos when I proposed to let the bot follow streets instead of going throug buildings I just got downvoted and people told me that I can manage that with Paths... Now that Niantic started the ban wave, this seems a good idea.....ahah Coherence :D

[Blackatap]

Please add % of nice/great/perfect throw & curved balls.. no human is going to score 210exp each catch!

[BreezeRo]

that's already in the dev branch @Blackatap a32f24e

[ponytails]

@VINCENTko

i still get 210 exp each catched

[BreezeRo]

I can't reproduce @ponytails, it works fine for me - did you lower the thresholds from default? Please join the slack chat for #help, let's keep this issue here ontopic

[titogarrido]

@VINCENTko Mine is also always set to 210XP...

"catch_randomize_reticle_factor": 1.0,
"catch_randomize_spin_factor": 1.0,
"min_ultraball_to_keep": 10,
"catch": {
  "any": {"catch_above_cp": 0, "catch_above_iv": 0, "logic": "or"},
  "// Example of always catching Rattata:": {},
  "// Rattata": { "always_catch" : true }
},
"catch_throw_parameters": {
  "excellent_rate": 0.1,
  "great_rate": 0.5,
  "nice_rate": 0.3,
  "normal_rate": 0.1,
  "spin_success_rate" : 0.6
},

What should I change here?

[ponytails]

@VINCENTko

can i see your config ? without ur private parts

[Y4kuzi]

Same for me, even after removing

"catch_randomize_reticle_factor": 1.0,
"catch_randomize_spin_factor": 1.0,

It still always gives 210xp.

[BreezeRo]

@Y4kuzi if you remove these lines (as in, undefine them in the config), they will revert to the "hardcoded" values, you need to reduce them, 1.0 being 100%

[Y4kuzi]

I know, but I was talking about the new method, it doesn't work for me so I guess I'll just use the old method until it gets fixed.

[maxprzemo]

@Y4kuzi
set
"catch_randomize_reticle_factor": 0.0, "catch_randomize_spin_factor": 0.0,
and
"catch_throw_parameters": { "excellent_rate": 0.1, "great_rate": 0.1, "nice_rate": 0.2, "normal_rate": 0.6, "spin_success_rate" : 0.0 },
and test

[Y4kuzi]

Seems to work now. Does that mean the sum of the parameters should always be 10?

[accident12123]

I didn't notice this earlier but I added in 2 requests that I think is missing to get more human:

• request: MoveToMapPokemon dual mode #3888
• Request: Variable Walk Speed (Humanize) #3886

They are not rushing after priority pokemon and trying to stay more in a small defined area before heading futher away. The other is variable walk speeds and a list of when I think I would drag my ass, want to stop and let pokemon come to me, and when it's time to get some pep in your step.

[ghost]

i dont understand why ppls get a softban there, i dont get any bans and use mostly the standard config (just added to evolve everything, just keep the best 3 pokemon and kick away some items). i just get the messsage that im soft banned after i close the bot and instant (within a minute) restart it, but it fix it very fast.

could it also epens in what cuntry u live? like usa get more attention than germany?

[DiegoRBaquero]

To randomize walk speed by +/- 50% you can do this:

in step_walker.py add from random import random as second line. And replace self.speed = speed with self.speed = speed + speed * 0.5 * ((random()*2) - 1) 😄

You can change the 0.5 to the % you want to randomize by.

[DiegoRBaquero]

Has anyone thought about the altitude in the location? I think we should be able to configure a min-max you can set for your own city.

[g2384]

Have you check that if you just stand at a stop, never move, only catch nearby pokemon, for 24h? Low exp but safe?

[maxprzemo]

@DiegoRBaquero
PokemonGo-Bot/pokemongo_bot/step_walker.py", line 22, in __init__ self.speed = speed + speed * 0.5 * ((random()*2) - 1) NameError: global name 'random' is not defined
did not work

[DiegoRBaquero]

@maxprzemo read my comment again, you missed something.

[maxprzemo]

@DiegoRBaquero
My mistake :)
from random import random

[maxprzemo]

@DiegoRBaquero
0.5
is 50%
1.0
is 100% ?

[DiegoRBaquero]

@maxprzemo yup.

[maxprzemo]

@DiegoRBaquero
Thank you :)
Python is not my favorite programming language.

[DiegoRBaquero]

@maxprzemo I've actually never done anything in Python besides these small edits on this bot 😆 😋

[k4n30]

@breezelo Can you please review #3872 & #3943 and update this feature request accordingly based on what has been added. We only need to track what is still left to be done

Let me know if you have any issues :)

[BreezeRo]

Updated @k4n30, had notifications off sorry about that

[k4n30]

@breezelo Your last feature request is already covered in #3773 so rather than have duplicates (to be fair it was created before this one), are you happy to close this?

[BreezeRo]

satisfied & closed