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Decide on what legal setup we should use #1
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SG has Company Limited by Guarantee Key points are:
But one condition it has is
which requires that we need at least 2 citizens or PR of Singapore. |
EE also allows you to have a non-profit known as Mittetulundusühing (MTÜ) Key points are:
And unlike SG's Company Limited By Guarantee,
but at the same time
This means we need to hire a service provider in Estonia to act as our contact person and also obtain a legal address. This will incur costs. Other items to consider
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I talked to Ms. Jaqueline from corporateservices.com about SG's Company Limited by Guarantee on 2023-07-25 and these are what I found out:
In total, having the entity in SG with a company to take care of it for us and also a nominal local director will cost us around SGD5,000 per year (budgeting a bit higher) just for maintenance costs and around 40% of that goes to the nominal director. |
Looking at the Estonian Service Provider Marketplace, a sample of costs in running an MTU in Estonia can be found here. Initial startup costs EUR348 (includes state fee, registration fee, Virtual Office and Authorized Contact point service fee) Magrat.euIn an email from magrat.eu, they mentioned that the costs for starting and maintaining the MTU with them are something like Initial costs EUR1636 Which adds up to the total of at least EUR2880/year of maintaining fees. |
I contacted 1Office and Magrat.eu which can help with establishing and running the MTU in Estonia. One thing that both of them mentioned which was a concern is that ideally all members , including ordinary members, should be e-residents of Estonia. This is what Dmytro from magrat.eu said:
This creates a barrier for members of our community to participate meaningfully in PAO, since their acceptance to discuss, propose and ultimately vote on the direction of PAO is dependent on being an e-resident. |
Update concerning SG's Company Limited by Guarantee structure: I talked again to Ms. Jaqueline on 2023-08-21 and confirmed that:
Now, having the concept of so-called "ordinary members" having a say on who gets to be a director cannot be done as it is. If an "ordinary member" wants to have a say, then they need to be a Founding Member in the current legal framework. In short, a quick and easy registration process that allows an ordinary member to vote on who gets to be a director like the PSF or the EPS is not possible. Ms. Jaqueline also mentioned that there is another legal vehicle called "Society" in SG which fits more with how the EPS and PSF does things, but it requires a majority of its members to be residents/citizens of SG. |
thank you for your continued effort in all of this. are there similar restrictions in an Estonian MTÜ, or could 'ordinary members' of one be responsible for electing the board of directors? |
@ojii For the Estonian MTÜ, only Members (i.e. shareholders) can elect board members. I used the term Founding Members above to point to the group of entities or people founding the MTU, but there is no distinction between Members and Founding Members. There will be a KYC process and the Members (and Founding Members) need to be an e-resident ordinary members here refer to members who join the Organization using an email address or online form or some other method which the Organization will decide. They don't need to go through a KYC process or be an e-resident, but they will not have any say in how the Diretors are elected, which only Members do. |
thank you for the clarifications |
More info on EE MTU: Some samples of Articles Of Association for a Non-Profit. CapitalNon-Profit doesn't have the concept of "capital", but it has the concept of membership fees, which are paid by the members (founders). At dissolution, all assets the MTU has needs to be transferred to another "member of the list of non-profit associations and foundations with tax incentives, to a legal person in public law (including the state) or to the local government." |
Find a legal setup within a legal framework that can work for directorship which will comprise of different nationalities and to be easily changed annually.
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