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Get lab RIM projects #15

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joewheaton opened this issue Jan 7, 2022 · 14 comments
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Get lab RIM projects #15

joewheaton opened this issue Jan 7, 2022 · 14 comments
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joewheaton commented Jan 7, 2022

@wally-mac, I know the lab has done a bunch of RIM mapping for projects (e.g. Bailey Flat Klamath, BLM Utah, USFS PIBO).Do you know if these were done using RIM and therefor exist as riverscapes projects? If so, we're uploading a bunch for the USFS/PIBO thing from @kbartelt to warehouse (see #11). It would be really easy for us to fix at the same time yours? If not, we might want to scope with @Jdgilby and @jtgilbert what it would take to get your layers into the system. @nick4rivers will also be interested in this for testing out RIM in QRiS.

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@Cashe93 can you please weigh in on this by determining which projects have been done using the riverscapes compliant version of RIM and which ones may still need to be incorporated into the tool? There should also be additional projects that Joe didn't list so please be exhaustive and include all the projects where we have used drone imagery to capture inundation extent mapping.

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Yes, seeing how you are approaching this would really be helpful whether they are Riverscapes compliant or not.

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Cashe93 commented Jan 10, 2022

@wally-mac and @joewheaton, I'll compile a list of the mapping we've done using drone imagery. However, I can confirm that, for the vast majority of these, the RIM tool was not used. The mapping exists, just not as riverscapes projects. I'll post the list here momentarily.

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Cashe93 commented Jan 10, 2022

Project Riverscapes Compliant?
Bailey Flat Klamath Yes
Utah BLM No
USFS PIBO Idaho hasn't been mapped yet
Cottonwood Wash San Raf No
Dugout Ranch (still in progress) No
Price River No
Marys River Upper Humboldt No

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@Cashe93 please run RIM for the PIBO site in Idaho. I think this is a good opportunity to make those projects compliant. What would it take to make the other projects Riverscape compliant?

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Cashe93 commented Jan 10, 2022

@wally-mac, we would just have to run RIM with what we have already mapped. If everything runs smoothly it shouldn't take much. However, the RIM tool doesn't include a handful of the geomorphic units that we've been mapping. It only uses dam crests, inundation, thalwegs, valley bottom, and valley bottom centerline. The other features we've been mapping won't be included unless we manually add them, and even then the statistics won't reflect those features. Is this something we want to do, or should we just keep what's currently included in RIM?

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@Cashe93 I think for now just use the existing functionality of RIM. I think in the future @nick4rivers will be working on including the Tier 1 unit mapping but I think it will be in a different tool than RIM. @nick4rivers can you fact check me.? Thanks

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Cashe93 commented Jan 11, 2022

Sounds good. I'll get started on this tomorrow.

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@wally-mac and @Cashe93 thanks for keeping us in the loop and providing some of the raw data you all are producing. Yes, the idea here is to develop a QGIS plugin for creation and metric calculation for RIM projects. This should really help with efficiency and consistency across the board. It should also allow projects to easily find a home within the Riverscapes Warehouse.

Another quick question is whether your group is currently running the .py scripts within this repo? Or are you mostly manually creating the necessary collection of feature classes and calculating summary metrics.

Thanks all, don't hold your breath on this tool. It's gonna be a bit but we will try to keep you all in the conversation and hopefully can create something that is useful and gets used.

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Cashe93 commented Jan 11, 2022

@nick4rivers, most of these projects were done manually without running the .py scripts. However, the few times I've toyed around with the RIM tool, I was using the .py scripts that were updated by @tyler1218hatch which are located here. As mentioned above, many of our projects have required mapping more than just valley bottom and inundation, so it would be nice to have a tool that incorporates all of those features if possible.

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@Cashe93 that's super helpful - i'll reach out when I actually get to implementing this stuff.

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@Cashe93 have you used the Arc toolbox from Tyler's fork, or run the scripts independently?

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Cashe93 commented Jan 11, 2022

@jtgilbert, I'm using the toolbox.

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jtgilbert commented Jan 13, 2022

@Cashe93 @wally-mac Joe doesn't want us to spin our wheels trying make the toolbox deployable if it's not easily diagnosed. For the lab projects you can manually put them into project structure (the way you guys have been? which could include additional layers like you were discussing) and use these project xmls as a template for RS compliance so that the projects can open with RAVE.

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