Graduating experimentalWatchApi from experiment to default

[mnquintana]

👋 After reading up on #685 and some related issues that had cropped up over the course of testing, I wanted to ask:

• What would it take to graduate experimentalWatchApi from an experimental API to the default watch behavior for ts-loader?
• Are there any lingering known issues with it? (I didn't find anything from a cursory search.)

[johnnyreilly]

I haven't done much testing with it myself. (Surprising I know but this landed around the time that the webpack 4 port was happening and that occupied a lot of my time!)

That said, this post detailing how it's used by one of the Outlook team at Microsoft suggests that it's pretty much good to go:

https://medium.com/@kenneth_chau/speeding-up-webpack-typescript-incremental-builds-by-7x-3912ba4c1d15

I'm certainly going to be doing some more testing with it in the near future. If that pans out well then it will likely become the default watch behaviour in future.

[johnnyreilly]

Just curious; do you use ts-loader at Slack?

[johnnyreilly]

I'd be interested in the feedback of Vue users using the experimentalWatchApi: true option in their ts-loader options. Mostly the watch API seems to just work™️. The main question mark is over how appendSuffixTo behaves with the watch API. (This option is only used by Vue users AFAIK)

Running the tests appendSuffixTo and appendSuffixToWatch with experimentalWatchApi: true produced different output. Our comparison tests are just file diffs and a difference does not always represent a failure. So I'd be interested in a Vue user taking this for a spin and reporting back.

cc @HerringtonDarkholme @alexjoverm @prograhammer @CKGrafico @wonderful-panda @sheetalkamat @MLoughry @yyx990803 @kenotron

PS If anyone would be up for contributing a Vue execution test to our execution test pack (the execution test pack executes compiled code and so can be more informative about whether changed output is actually still valid) that would be most welcome 🌻

[beheh]

We have a relatively complex project where the (initial) compile just hangs forever after enabling experimentalWatchApi.

I haven't got time to dig in right now, but can try and come up with a minimal case at some point. In the meantime, here's the webpack.config.js.

[johnnyreilly]

Thanks for reporting @beheh. If you could take some time to investigate that would be tremendous. cc @sheetalkamat (aka the person who put the hard graft in to adding this functionality to ts-loader 😉 )

Just for clarification: if we do make the switch to use the watch API by default we will have an option that allows switching back to the current mechanism just in case.

Besides anything else, we still support versions of TypeScript that predate the watch API existing.

[CKGrafico]

Do we need webpack 4 for this?

[kenotron]

We've experienced that stall as well if transpileonly is off. So that seeing isn't appropriate for production. For that we end up compile to JS and then bundle.

[johnnyreilly]

@CKGrafico - basically yes. It was available with 3.5 but it contained a bug which @sheetalkamat fixed.#747

@kenotron that's a shame. It would be good if there was a reproduction for that. Is that possible?

[CKGrafico]

We are not using webpack 4 yet on our projects, but I'll check when we find some time to migrate haha

[abirmingham]

Any update on this? Would love to use experimentalWatchApi but the 'experimental' part makes me skittish :)

[johnnyreilly]

I'm afraid not @abirmingham. I don't have any more information than what you see in this thread. I'm hoping someone will supply a minimal repro repo so that someone can investigate a concrete issue. At present it's somewhat unknown where the dragons lie. Frustrating alas

[kiliancs]

We tried experimentalWatchApi but it caused intermittent problems with json imports:

en.js?uihost=x:100 Uncaught Error: Cannot find module '/data/x/activitygroups.json'
    at webpackMissingModule (en.js?uihost=x:100)
    at Object../i18n/en/activitygroups.json (en.js?uihost=x:100)
    at __webpack_require__ (en.js?uihost=x:20)
    at eval (index.ts:7)
    at Object../i18n/en/index.ts (en.js?uihost=x:229)
    at __webpack_require__ (en.js?uihost=x:20)
    at eval (en.init.ts?1fda:2)
    at Object../i18n/en.init.ts (en.js?uihost=x:93)
    at __webpack_require__ (en.js?uihost=x:20)
    at en.js?uihost=x:84

We haven't figured out how to reproduce this reliably. It would happen when switching branches in some cases, or simply by restarting webpack-dev-server, but only occasionally.

The problem would occur with both import x from 'some_file.json' as well as require('some_file.json')`, for what that's worth.

Upgrading webpack to 4.17.1 and removing the experimentalWatchApi gave us similar performance as we had with experimentalWatchApi and webpack 4.16.3. The problem seems to be gone.

[sheetalkamat]

@johnnyreilly tsloader uses its own resolve module names api to resolve module name which could be causing this?

[johnnyreilly]

Thanks for the information @kiliancs

@johnnyreilly tsloader uses its own resolve module names api to resolve module name which could be causing this?

Thanks for that @sheetalkamat - could be worth swapping that for TypeScript's one. I've a vague idea I started doing that and then backed it out at some point but I can't remember why. I think it may be time for a reattempt.

Of course if anyone would like to submit a PR that's always welcome 😁

It's a shame that there's no reliable way to reproduce this issue! At the moment we know there be dragons but they only appear every now and then. So any fix is speculative at best 😕

[kiliancs]

False alarm @johnnyreilly. The issue still occurs without the experimentalWatchApi. It's safe to assume our problem was unrelated. Dragons indeed.

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