Public Ansible Project Meeting Agenda - February 2020

[samdoran]

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[samdoran]

Bringing over topics from #516

@felixfontein:

• Clean up FILE_COMMON_ARGUMENTS ansible#66389 clean up FILE_COMMON_ARGUMENTS

[pdumais]

• I'd like to bring up the subject discussed in v2_playbook_on_task_end in CallbackModule ansible#66582 (adding v2_playbook_on_task_end in CallbackModule).

[felixfontein]

• how should deprecation version number mismatches be handled in the future (especially with collections)? Add deprecated removed_in_version and deprecated_aliases version tests, allow to enable such tests via flag ansible#66920
• Module validation: sanity check mutually_exclusive, required_if, required_xxx ... ansible#66961 sanity check for mutually_exclusive, required_if, required_by, required_together, required_one_of
• should new sanity tests be backported to stable-2.9?

[jillr]

Meeting ended Tue Feb 4 20:13:10 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-04/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-04-19.06.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-04/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-04-19.06.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-04/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-04-19.06.log.html

[felixfontein]

• add_file_common_arguments: fix defaults and tpyes, improve sanity checking ansible#67243 add_file_common_arguments: fix defaults and tpyes, improve sanity checking

[felixfontein]

While I'm at it, one more :)

• AnsibleModule.load_file_common_arguments: allow to override path ansible#61659

[tremble]

• CloudRetry/AWSRetry : Disable catching of NotFound exceptions ansible#67281 - Should we change AWSRetry's default behaviour to not catching NotFound errors

[jillr]

Meeting ended Tue Feb 11 20:02:48 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-11/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-11-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-11/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-11-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-11/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-11-19.00.log.html

[pilou-]

• variables defined with 'vars:' keyword below 'role:' have unexpected values when used in imported/included roles ansible#50278

  Following previous documentation meetings older, newer, what is the expected behavior ? role params would bleed, role vars: should not or the current one ?

Once behavior has been decided, documentation could be improved:

• scope of role params isn't documented, role params are only mentioned in the precedence list

• scope of variables defined in defaults directory is mentioned here but the scope of variables defined in vars directory isn't mentioned here (it is mentioned in import_role documentation).

• The documentation doesn't state that the variables defined with vars keyword below role: behave like variables defined in roels/<rolename>vars directory.

• Is there any reason to use role variables instead of role parameters in the examples with role: ?

• import_role doesn't allow to use role parameters: hence every role: keyword can not be replaced by import_role. However the current documentation states:

  • that:

    You can re-use roles statically anywhere in the tasks section of a play using import_role. The behavior is the same as using the roles keyword.

  • import_role doc

    Much like the roles: keyword

• Scoping documentation is sparse:

  Play: each play and contained structures, vars entries (vars; vars_files; vars_prompt), role defaults and vars.

  vars entries isn't well defined (is the vars keyword of a task a vars entries ?)

• vars keyword documentation doesn't mention that scope of import_role: vars differs from the scope of any other variables defined using vars keywords and another task.

[samdoran]

Meeting ended Thu Feb 13 16:43:06 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-13/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting_https:git.luolix.topansiblecommunityissues519.2020-02-13-15.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-13/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting_https:git.luolix.topansiblecommunityissues519.2020-02-13-15.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-13/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting_https:git.luolix.topansiblecommunityissues519.2020-02-13-15.01.log.html

[jillr]

Meeting ended Tue Feb 18 19:47:29 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-18/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-18-19.08.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-18/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-18-19.08.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-18/ansible_core_irc_public_meeting.2020-02-18-19.08.log.html

[gundalow]

Ansible Contributors Summit EUROPE

What

Ansible Contributor Summit is a one day event especially for community contributors to meet with each other, as well as Ansible development teams (Core, AWX/Tower, Galaxy) in person, to discuss important issues in the community and help shape the future of Ansible. For those unable to make it to Gothenburg, we welcome you to join virtually for part/all of the day. Online participation and streaming details to follow closer to the summit.

When

• Contributors Summit: Sunday, 29th March
• Ansible Hackathon: Monday 30th March
• FOSS-North: 30 & 31st March

How

• If you plan to attend in person, please register on Eventbrite
• If you plan to attend the hackathon or any of FOSS-North please register
• If you plan to attend virtually details will be added to the Etherpad the day before

Agenda

• Please add suggested topics to the Etherpad
  For more info please see the announcement.

[jillr]

No attendees today.
Meeting ended Tue Feb 25 19:09:54 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot .
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-25/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting_https:git.luolix.topansiblecommunityissues519.2020-02-25-19.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-25/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting_https:git.luolix.topansiblecommunityissues519.2020-02-25-19.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-02-25/ansible_core_public_irc_meeting_https:git.luolix.topansiblecommunityissues519.2020-02-25-19.01.log.html

[giner]

• Playbooks: Inventory variables should override playbook lever variables by default, see Precendence: why playbook variables win over inventory ones? ansible#63668
• Hosts: reference parent groups from children (makes copy/pastes easy)