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DiaoBi Cao Disqus #44
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Hi 屌屄, I believe all your points had been previously addressed in the FAQ: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/3ec1f6829d50da0e7fdeca63b1acc1718b241dc4/FAQ.md |
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Originally on Disqus http://www.cirosantilli.com/#comment-3512175032 by https://disqus.com/by/diaobicao/comments/ but deleted?
Hi there! I saw your profile and some of your comments: apparently you are a very intelligent man and you really kept it cool and rational in this kind of discussion, and I respect that. But I just want to let you know that despite some stuff you posted in profile which justify your freedom to do it, your username and profile picture are disturbing to see. And it's not even funny or anything it's just straight up disturbing - and this comes from a Chinese who has no admiration for the party at all. You've probably kept it a long time but I still don't think it's appropriate to do this on StackExchange. It's a pure academic forum there, and you sould assume everyone there does not have interest in political talk. Especially your profile picture and the super-long username - it' s too in-people's-face, and it's not respectful to people especially like me - Chinese who are not into this shit and have no opinion on this. At least keep it a bit low key maybe? Also, making it too eye-catching surely attracts all the radical people first - just look at this comment section, some words make me want to kill myself. And it's not good for the kind of discussion you are trying to build.
About the subject you are discussing, 1) Being a native Chinese and heard much about it (also know people put in jail for this), I don't believe in most stuff that I hear, and I think I'm too far away from having enough facts to have an opinion on this; so I don't want to comment on Falun Gong. 2) I feel sorry for whatever happened to your girlfriend's mom. However, without making comment on the subject I do have a few personal notes on the way to look at this thing -
Chinese government does things against human rights (tortured Falun Gong people), suppresses freedom of speech, etc. These are facts. No fucking shit. 99% of the Chinese people who would come across your profile are aware of this. We ain't need no one to remind us these sad things. And I doubt what you do would really make any tiny difference (besides starting meaningless discussion full of verbal abuse). Also I personally believe all these are still a universal problem. Western countries' government probably does shady things too, who would've known? Some human rights people be acting like China is a hell or something, while most ordinary Chinese people are living just fine.
Falun Gong is not clean, and that Hongzhi Li is full of shit. Just look at his background - you are gonna spiritually follow someone like this huh? This is 21st century and there will be no 'saint' anymore - not to mention a guy that's still alive. Look at what he does and what he claims himself to be - not saying he's wrong, but he's full of bullshit. Come on, bruh. There's a lot of stupidity in this shit, and I think you are able to tell, meaning a normal educated person has every reason to not engage in it and thus keep themselves safe. On the other hand you have to know how uneducated the majority of people in this country are, and they are the ones who would fall for this bullshit. Go to the Chinatown anywhere and take a look at some of the people that campaign fo r Falun Gong - again, not judging them, but I just can't convince myself their shit is worth anyone's time.
As a problem that's been around for such long time, it's almost certain that both sides have had rights and wrongs. I found a lot of people who defend Falun Gong acting like it's completely innocent and Chinese government does all the evil. If you think so you are 'brainwashed' lol. Keep in mind that it's been more than 20 years, and after all the shit that happened, the attitude on both sides must has changed a lot too. Trying to make a simple judgement (or trying to find out a single reason for 'why') is just impossible. Neither sides can be fully justified anymore at this point, I believe.
So yeah, that's what I think and that's why I'm never into this shit. If you are up for it it's cool. Progress in human rights, freedom of speech etc do need more people to preach. (But I doubt you have the ability to reach the right group of audience, though.) Again I don't hold anything against either sides. Falun people can choose to do whatever the fuck they want. Just think it's not worth it really. Peace.
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