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[nerdCopter]

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[chasingfpv]

i just flew a few packs on emuflight an look for tuning notes to help understand more .motors are a little warm i made a few little trys of trying a slight tune.like hoe emu feels from beta just need guideince. an i would test also have 8 quads a7 inch 3 5inch little whoops

[nerdCopter]

Welcome to EmuFlight!
I usually tell people to tune their dTerm LPF's first. defaults values may not be working well for you. Here is a most basic overview: https://github.com/emuflight/EmuFlight/wiki/LowPassFilters

That said, warm is perfectly fine, what you do not want is "HOT". Do not allow your motors to get hot enough to where you cannot hold them for 12 seconds.

If you join the Discord, people could help with BlackBox Log analysis as well.

[F101Voodoo]

Thank you for your Emuflight development. I installed a Walksnail Kit V2 on a 5” quad with heliospring FC. Used your Emuflight Configurator and flashed FC. Initial flights went well, good Betaflight OSD. Now OSD is freezing First noticed frozen data in flight at 3 minute mark. Then after cycling power to quad same frozen data persisted. After cycling power to both quad and Tx (ELRS) no BF OSD at all. Later at home powered up and good OSD data reappeared, but when I armed the quad it froze again instantly, timer 2 at 0 seconds.

[nerdCopter]

what git commit? (master?)
what configurator commit?
set PAL for Walksnail?

[F101Voodoo]

Emuflight 0.4.1 configurator (unstable) EMUF 0.4.2 HELIOSPRING target (unstable) OSD Video Format HD Should it be set to PAL?

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On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 7:07 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: what git commit? (master?) what configurator commit? set PAL for Walksnail? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#477 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CAYSNOAKOSCSLPDOPDYTTHMVAVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNBWG4YDQMI> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[nerdCopter]

i believe so, this is what other Walksnail users have done for text alignment.
for HelioSPring I suggest UART3 for MSP-Display-port. (or specifically not UART1) (this might be why it freezes for you)
if you want MSP-Displayport be sure to use latest development builds:
I'm running HDZero (MSP-Displayport) on HelioSpring v1 without freezes.
using these two builds:
https://github.com/emuflight/dev-unstable/releases/tag/20240124.171109-hex
https://github.com/emuflight/dev-unstable/releases/tag/20240124.164604-cfg

[F101Voodoo]

Thanks I’ll switch to OSD PAL and see if it is better. HD looks good with the small font but freezes too much. As long as I can place data on the screen where I want it I’ll be happy.

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On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 9:17 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: i believe so, this is what other Walksnail users have done for text alignment. for HelioSPring I suggest UART3 for MSP-Display-port. (or specifically not UART1) if you want MSP-Displayport be sure to use latest development builds: I'm running HDZero (MSP-Displayport) on HelioSpring v1 without freezes. using these two builds: https://github.com/emuflight/dev-unstable/releases/tag/20240124.171109-hex https://github.com/emuflight/dev-unstable/releases/tag/20240124.164604-cfg — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#477 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CBOVD3ZIXVWSTH4VUTYTTWULAVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNBWHEYTKOA> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[F101Voodoo]

Oh yeah of course I tried to use UART1 first. Then I realized that could not be done. No biggie.

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On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 9:17 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: i believe so, this is what other Walksnail users have done for text alignment. for HelioSPring I suggest UART3 for MSP-Display-port. (or specifically not UART1) if you want MSP-Displayport be sure to use latest development builds: I'm running HDZero (MSP-Displayport) on HelioSpring v1 without freezes. using these two builds: https://github.com/emuflight/dev-unstable/releases/tag/20240124.171109-hex https://github.com/emuflight/dev-unstable/releases/tag/20240124.164604-cfg — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#477 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CBOVD3ZIXVWSTH4VUTYTTWULAVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNBWHEYTKOA> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[nerdCopter]

okay, i dont understand the freezes. but i do not have prior reports of freezing, nor do i have Walksnail for testing.
you might consider a lower pid-loop, but i dont know for fact. i set my pid denominator to 3 to fly at 10.67k pid/gyro loops.

[F101Voodoo]

PID's for OSD? Way over my head but thank you. I will see if I can get a PAL format Emuflight OSD in my Walksnail goggles and fly without having the Emuflight OSD data freeze in the goggles. Just to be clear, The Walksnail video and data is fine and I can continue flying, it is just the Emuflight FC data like battery voltage, flight time, LQI and RSSI etc. that freezes.

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On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 5:58 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: okay, i dont understand the freezes. but i do not have prior reports of freezing, nor do i have Walksnail for testing. you might consider a lower pid-loop, but i dont know for fact. i set my pid denominator to 3 to fly at 10.67k pid/gyro loops. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#477 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CGCQOFLEL5ZJHW4H4DYTYIAHAVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNBYGAZDCMA> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[nerdCopter]

1. not PID's per se... "PID loop frequency in kilohertz". smaller value will allow for more time for processes to finish and use less CPU resources.
2. The PAL thing was needed in older builds, but maybe not this newer build. i dont know as i cannot test, and pilots no longer providing feedback. i encourage you to join Emuflight's Discord server for easier communications, but not 100% necessary if you prefer not.

[F101Voodoo]

Thanks, I joined github to send you my findings but had trouble navigating it, to have a conversation. I will try Discord. I will let you know if PAL solves the problem or if I can see how to change the PID loop frequency but (like I suspect most of us modern flyers) I may just install a current FC. I am more of a build and fly guy than a problem solver, LOL.

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On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 6:05 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: 1. not PID's per se... "PID loop frequency in kilohertz". smaller value will allow for more time for processes to finish and use less CPU resources. 2. The PAL thing was needed in older builds, but maybe not this newer build. i dont know as i cannot test, and pilots no longer providing feedback. i encourage you to join Emuflight's Discord server for easier communications, but not 100% necessary if you prefer not. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#477 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CCTE6N7BMGWS6W7Z4LYT5RSVAVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNBZGMYDGNY> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[nerdCopter]

👍

try

or try

[F101Voodoo]

I will, I'll let you know how it works out.

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On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 7:09 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: 👍 try image.png (view on web) <https://github.com/emuflight/EmuFlight/assets/56646290/449c932f-210d-4fb2-82ca-47ca2a514bb4> or try image.png (view on web) <https://github.com/emuflight/EmuFlight/assets/56646290/d6f3315f-1503-4e7a-9957-fa0e5e42ae0c> — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#477 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CHYIBTRO3KAFG4ZB6DYT5ZCFAVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNBZGM4DKMQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[nerdCopter]

i found a bug when i merged HD to master (but may have only affected analog, unsure). master is fixed. i will build new hex, watch dev-unstable repo. will take a couple hours.

[F101Voodoo]

Awesome, thanks for the update!

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On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 10:50 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: i found a bug when i merged HD to master (but may have only affected analog, unsure). master is fixed. i will build new hex, watch dev-unstable repo. will take a couple hours. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#477 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CEY3HGQDNQT7N5G4X3YUD3W3AVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNJQGI2DSNA> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[F101Voodoo]

FYI I tried the PID settings you gave me but with all three Configuration PIDs the OSD is intermittent. Im starting to think the Heliospring FC or Walksnail Kit may be to blame. The Walksnail is a new unit. Ill try your new brew but it might be your work is fine and something else is the problem. Cheers! On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 9:59 PM Eric Schellenberger ***@***.***> wrote:

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Awesome, thanks for the update! On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 10:50 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: > i found a bug when i merged HD to master (but may have only affected > analog, unsure). master is fixed. i will build new hex, watch dev-unstable > repo. will take a couple hours. > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#477 (reply in thread)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CEY3HGQDNQT7N5G4X3YUD3W3AVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNJQGI2DSNA> > . > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > ***@***.***> >

[nerdCopter]

Another pilot reports he cannot enter into OSD-menu with stick-command on WlakSnail. Are you able?

[F101Voodoo]

I never used stick commands with Walksnail. Don't know how... I only ever used them with analog vtx smart audio. FYI I have not tried your newest software revision yet, been busy. I'll let you know if it works better (no frozen OSD). Thanks!

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On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 8:42 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: Another user reports he cannot enter into OSD-menu with stick-command on WlakSnail. Are you able? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#477 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CF4T6OT3WVI22CUOLLYV5M6TAVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNRTGM2DAOA> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[F101Voodoo]

Hey I wanted you to know I have started having the same video problems with my other Walksnail equipped quads which are using current versions of BetaFlight. Namely frozen OSD data and even frozen video (crashing!) it is a bummer and I will have to send my Walksnail GogglesX back in for service. I have to assume that your programming to allow HD OSD with Emuflight is fine. The goggles appear to be at fault. On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 1:16 PM Eric Schellenberger ***@***.***> wrote:

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I never used stick commands with Walksnail. Don't know how... I only ever used them with analog vtx smart audio. FYI I have not tried your newest software revision yet, been busy. I'll let you know if it works better (no frozen OSD). Thanks! On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 8:42 AM nerdCopter ***@***.***> wrote: > Another user reports he cannot enter into OSD-menu with stick-command on > WlakSnail. Are you able? > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#477 (reply in thread)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BGDG6CF4T6OT3WVI22CUOLLYV5M6TAVCNFSM4WXML2MKU5DIOJSWCZC7NNSXTOKENFZWG5LTONUW63SDN5WW2ZLOOQ5TQNRTGM2DAOA> > . > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > ***@***.***> >

[nerdCopter]

thank you very much for reporting this. sorry for your troubles.