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Design: Connections / Peers List #38
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Also here: ipfs/ipfs-webui#229 in my opnion very nice graphic visualisation of peers
Is that possible? It will be nice features! |
@akrych i agree, that visual looks great. The 3d globe on the existing one is fun, but it seems to consume a lot of system resources / makes my browser slow. I haven't profiled it, so I don't want to assume it's the globe... but we need to add in performance to our criteria. This one could show all the pins at once, which is a trade off... completeness (wow! everything!) vs relevance (oh! there are 10 IPFS users in my city!). I do like this one tho. |
Doe anyone else think that showing the location of Peers sends a weird "we know where you live" message to users? User who may be currently concerned at the unobservable amount of surveillance the centralised alternatives may be engaging in. It could be argued that we should show it if it's possible to know it, as implies to a user that IPFS is not a completely anonymous space by default. If that's the case, then we should be much clearer about it and explain or link to a good explanation of the privacy expectations they should have. |
It might be scary on IPFS-Desktop. Although I think we could show at least the country in the WebUI. What about showing only the number of peers in IPFS Desktop and that would link to a page in WebUI with the list of peers? |
I really like that visual. I don't think it's creepy that you can see the location of other IPFS nodes. They are effectively anonymous anyway. Disallowing zooming on the map will probably help even if it is creepy, because you won't be able to pinpoint a node (not that it is accurate anyway). I feel this page needs a purpose, beyond reinforcing the fact that you are connected to peers around the globe, and beyond just something that looks pretty. The peer list feels really redundant. I can't imagine a reason why I might want to scroll through it... What if it was instead a list of peers currently download from you and a list of peers you're downloading from? Then we could show bandwidth and speed stats and maybe expand to see CIDs being transferred.
I like the idea of the avatar in the list but until we have the concept of buddies (and a buddy avatar) it's always going to be a generated icon. Hey, we should totally build IPFS gravatar so you can associate a Peer ID with an image. |
How about adding some data visualization widgets that displays peer list in different forms?
Here's an Idea: Stats and Diagnostics Page(I am not sure if this is the right place, let me know if I should move below to a different/new issue) Perhaps "Peers" page should be renamed to "Stats" (or "Metric") page where "Connections / Peers List" becomes only one of tracked data sources? Some inspiration (data visualization aspect) below. GrafanaLive Demo: http://play.grafana.org/ KibanaI like the collapsible left menu, it makes space for visualizations: NetdataLive Demo: https://london.my-netdata.io/default.html#theme=white;help=true Tabler |
This is a rad idea ipfs/ipfs-webui#223 |
Chatting to @lanzafame about the peers page, we realised that the map was kind of a proxy signal for subjective network health... are there plenty of nodes near me that I can share with or are all the things gonna be intercontinentally slow? |
@lidel some more dashboard inspiration: https://www.behance.net/gallery/55843413/Console-UI, you have to scroll down to get to the dashboard section. Also, hive plots are a visually meaningful and comparable network diagram, that would be awesome to look at. 🙃 |
Thanks for sharing! Hive plots do have some interesting properties that make them shine as robust diagnostic tool:
Something to note is that hive plots look really alien while WebUI aims to be intuitive and friendly to less technical users. Not saying it can't be done, just that we need to be extra careful :) |
Screenshots at biglybt.com show various visualizations of activity between peers, block exchange process and other stats. Those screens are extremely utilitarian, made in old school aesthetic, but I feel make an important prior art, as BiglyBT is the continuation of the Vuze/Azureus open source project first created in 2003. That is a long time to iterate over ways p2p exchanges can be visualized. "Piece Map" |
This is primarily being used as background info for the work in ipfs/ipfs-webui#1003, so closing this issue. |
How should we indicate to the user that they have peers. That they are participating in the distributed web with many other people.
How much info should we show about who and where you are connecting to? What can I do with it?
What functionality could we add to turn this into a great feature, or is it purely informative? Can I block or mark peers as friends (see: #36) for example? Chat? Browser files other peers?
What shouldn't we show? Is it creepy to show peoples geocoded locations from their public ip? This is related to the more general question of what ipfs node stats we should show and how #33
The current state of things is described here: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/pm-ipfs-gui/blob/master/research/README.md#connections--peers
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