Open Community Working Meeting 2023-03-13 - 14:00 PT

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Open Community Working Meeting 2023-03-13 - 14:00 PT

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Agenda:

Topic	Owner	Decision/NextStep
Review last call's action items	[facilitator]
Update on the results on the survey asking for alternatives to unknown keywords. Issue: #241	@benjagm	Continue the promotion of the survey this week
Would like to hear thoughts on "in scope" for JSON Schema. Jason and Greg have provided some feedback, would like to hear from others. 286#discussioncomment-5010756	@Relequestual	Wait for more feedback during the week with the intend of getting this point closed at the end of this week

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Notes:

• We have review together the survey's data with 38 responses with these 3 options as the preferred ones (10 @, 10 x- and 9 #).
• Some participants of the meeting shared again their arguments agains the usage "x-" .
• We had a large discussion about the possible side effects of deciding for "@" in cases where JSON Schema and JSON-LD being used together and @jviotti shared the use case of W3C Web of Things as an example. We expect a reduced number of collateral effects but more research needs to be done.
• We discussed about the scope proposed in the Charter. There was no objections regarding the current items and the discussion was more focused in the pros and cons of using a high level scope vs a low level scope which our case:
  • A high level scope will make it easier to maintain the Charter document but will be less actionable.
  • A low level scope will help to prioritize and make decisions and will make it easier to understand or priorities.
• We agreed on the benefits of linking the use cases documents to the Charter document.

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@jdesrosiers
@awwright
@gregsdennis
@jviotti
@Relequestual
@benjagm
@Julian

[benjagm]

Regarding side effects of adopting "@" in cases where JSON Schema and JSON-LD are used together:

• https://blogs.pjjk.net/phil/json-schema-for-json-ld/
• meld JSON Schema and JSON-LD context/frame json-ld/yaml-ld#54
• How can JSON Schemas be used with JSON-LD? Why is this useful? w3c/vc-json-schema#122 and https://medium.com/transmute-techtalk/on-json-ld-and-the-semantics-of-identity-42d051d3ce14. On this one we can ask @OR13

[Relequestual]

@awwright here are some charters I found during my initial research that contained a "scope" section, if you feel seeing examples from other projects would be helpful: https://www.notion.so/fe39594a34e94277a77639db1816f9f5?v=49937cb402e246c398cced2abfad457c

[benjagm]

Closing this issue as all tasks are completed. Thanks for your contributions!

[sandrina-p]

Hi folks! I wanted to share some feedback:

Today I went to the discussion Still Kinda Supporting Unknown Keywords - A call for proposals as there weren't any updates in the last weeks. Then, I realized the discussion was closed and the description was edited with the final decision.

• Feedback 1): When closing a discussion, please leave a final comment about it so everyone who subscribed to it gets notified.

The decision says "... After hosting a survey, the results indicated that..." Where was this survey hosted? I looked through multiple issues but didn't find any link.

• Feedback 2) It would be nice if you had cross-shared this survey in the discussion itself too, to notify the subscribers.

Last but not least, where can I see this new spec documented? (Again, I looked for issues about it, but without success)

Thank you.

[benjagm]

Thanks a lot for this feedback @sandrina-p !! I agree on every point you highlighted and I take responsibility on it.

The decision says "... After hosting a survey, the results indicated that..." Where was this survey hosted? I looked through multiple issues but didn't find any link.

My fault. When I promoted the survey on Social Media and Slack I didn't create a new issue to to keep everyone subscribed properly informed.

[sandrina-p]

Thanks, @benjagm, it's okay, probably I'd have voted x- too ;). I realized now that I don't follow JSON Schema on Twitter 🙈 Not anymore!

[sandrina-p]

Also, I clicked the Slack link to JSON Schema in your homepage but it's no longer valid. Could you update it and let me know? Thanks :)

[Relequestual]

I'll get a new link up right away. While you're waiting: https://join.slack.com/t/json-schema/shared_invite/zt-1tc77c02b-z~UiKXqpM2gHchClKbUoXw