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| # io.js TC Meeting 2015-05-13 | ||
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| ## Links | ||
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| * **Public YouTube feed**: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbYiFLf7MpU | ||
| * **Google Plus Event page**: https://plus.google.com/events/cu606mlllfehl11u8kcj7q2407k | ||
| * **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1689 | ||
| * **Original Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Y_kJlYm-8cIf-alniaqUWMM-TjGISCqLf40G3pv4sM | ||
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| ## Agenda | ||
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| Extracted from https://github.com/iojs/io.js/labels/tc-agenda prior to meeting. | ||
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| * V8 4.4 to remove indexed properties via external data [#1451](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1451) | ||
| * NODE_PATH deprecation [#1627](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1627) | ||
| * Join the Node Foundation? [#1664](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1664) | ||
| * Put `*Sync` methods behind a flag in some future major version [#1665](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1665) | ||
| * TC Nominations | ||
| - Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki [#1501](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1501) | ||
| - Brian White @mscdex [#1500](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1500) | ||
| - @mikeal [#1481](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1481) | ||
| * Public QA via #io.js channel on Freenode | ||
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| ### Present | ||
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| * Ben (TC) | ||
| * Bert (TC) | ||
| * Brian | ||
| * Chris (TC) | ||
| * Domenic | ||
| * Jeremiah (TC) | ||
| * Mikeal | ||
| * Rod (TC) | ||
| * Shigeki | ||
| * Trevor (TC) | ||
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| ### Quick stand-up | ||
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| * Ben: Upgraded V8, upgraded cares for the first time in 2 years, reviewed pull requests | ||
| * Bert: Played Keen, not much io.js stuff; last Monday met with James, Mikeal about convergence | ||
| * Brian: looking over potential optimizations in the JS codebase, started working on a DNS resolver as a potential replacement for cares | ||
| * Chris: fixing race conditions in the REPL, poking at adding Ctrl-R history searching to readline | ||
| * Domenic: working with V8 team in Munich, working on v8-extras feature, putting large portions of things into snapshot to speed up startup and other things: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/v8-users/D6FmTwlvCgk | ||
| * Jeremiah: issue management, working on tooling for automatic dependency upgrades, see [#1688](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/pull/1688) | ||
| * Mikeal: Foundation stuff, getting ducks in a row | ||
| * Shigeki: holiday in JP, fix TLS bug involving edge-case, needs review | ||
| * Trevor: Helped with re-enabling snapshots, looking at changing the Buffer APIs to use TypedArrays | ||
| * Rod: Been doing lots of little things, working on the CI and build cluster | ||
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| ### Review of last meeting | ||
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| * Release Proposal: v2.0.0 [#1532](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/pull/1532) | ||
| * Forward-port from v1.x [#1559](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/pull/1559) | ||
| * Convergence plan (https://github.com/jasnell/dev-policy/pull/66) | ||
| * Combined node.js/io.js TC/core call [#1413](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1413) | ||
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| ## Minutes | ||
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| * Discussed creating a more formal deprecation policy, chris to open an issue. | ||
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| ### V8 4.4 to remove indexed properties via external data [#1451](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1451) | ||
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| * ‘smalloc’ has to go away when we land this V8, thankfully it’s not been around for long but this is a forced deprecation & removal. | ||
| * currently usage of ‘smalloc’ gives a deprecation warning, as of v2.0.0 | ||
| * @jeisinger has been backporting some APIs needed for Buffer, NAN will have to catch up but @kkoopa is involved | ||
| * Domenic: V8 4.3 will be next week, 7 weeks from now will be 4.4 (~1 week behind Chrome release) | ||
| * Trevor: no major problems with JS API, most problems will be in the C++ API, should be able to shim to ease it | ||
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| ### NODE_PATH deprecation [#1627](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1627) | ||
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| * Jeremiah: there was a suggestion to deprecate NODE_PATH entirely, debate is over deprecation or not, lots of people appear to be finding novel uses of it. | ||
| * Domenic: maybe we should document it | ||
| * Chris: it is documented, Googling shows that it’s been ingrained into the Node background, there’s lots of info out there about how it’s used | ||
| * Domenic: https://iojs.org/api/modules.html#modules_loading_from_the_global_folders | ||
| * Mikeal: maybe write docs about how it exists but you shouldn’t use it | ||
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| **Action: Mikeal to open an issue to change the docs to talk about how you probably shouldn’t use them** (note: it might be as simple as styling!) | ||
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| ### Join the Node Foundation? [#1664](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1664) | ||
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| * Mikeal: Mostly a consensus in the issue about joining | ||
| * Mikeal: Next step is to move the “iojs” org to “nodejs”, then move the convergence repo in to be “node” to be the new tip: https://github.com/jasnell/node.js-convergence | ||
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| Lots of discussions about process and what needs to happen & when, Mikeal pushing for a vote to get the org moved. | ||
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| **Voting Question**: The io.js TC agrees to: | ||
| 1. have the io.js project join the Node Foundation | ||
| 2. rename the entire “iojs” GitHub org to be “nodejs” | ||
| 3. invite the the current Node.js TC on to our TC to form the basis of a Node Foundation TSC under the policies of the Node Foundation | ||
| 4. moving the io.js Working Groups to be under the Node Foundation | ||
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| **Voting Results**: | ||
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| * Fedor: 0 | ||
| * Ben: +1 | ||
| * Bert: +1 | ||
| * Chris: +1 | ||
| * Jeremiah: +1 | ||
| * Trevor: +1 | ||
| * Rod: +1 | ||
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| Action: Mikeal to make the move happen in a coordinated way so we get redirects and whatnot | ||
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| ### Put `*Sync` methods behind a flag in some future major version [#1665](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1665) | ||
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| * Ben: some people feel that `fs.*Sync()` methods are harmful and would like to see them go away and be behind a flag | ||
| * Bert: don’t agree with deprecating but agree with a flag | ||
| * Rod: agree with Bert, but would like to see doc changes | ||
| * Trevor: working on a flag to print a stack trace | ||
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| ### TC Nominations | ||
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| * Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki [#1501](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1501) | ||
| * Brian White @mscdex [#1500](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1500) | ||
| * @mikeal [#1481](https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/1481) | ||
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| * Mikeal: joining | ||
| * Rod: timing is awkward with convergence but I’d like to make sure that Shigeki and Brian have a path to join the TC and not have that delayed too much | ||
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| ### Public QA via #io.js channel on Freenode | ||
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| * `<therebelrobot> After the converged release, will io.js/node still be semver? for example, the history would be node 0.10, 0.12, iojs 1.x 2.x then the converged one would be node 3.x?` | ||
| - Mikeal: the dev policy says so, there’s nobody advocating not to | ||
| * `<evanlucas> Are there plans to symlink node to iojs in the installers after the first converged release?` | ||
| - Bert: undecided. We should figure out a way to allow users to “node lts” and “node bleeding edge” side by side. | ||
| - Mikeal: part of the above is covered by a thread in NG about localizing the node installation to global modules. | ||
| * `<phpnode> will members of the core team be able to revive io.js if they disagree with the direction of the project in future` | ||
| - (Group) Yes | ||
| * `<skinan5> any plans for nan resolution?` | ||
| - Rod: it’s just a header file and you need it for older versions of Node so it doesn’t make sense to _not_ use it from npm | ||
| - Ben: current NAN isn’t suitable for bringing in | ||
| - Trevor: would support bringing in something that would provide proper ABI support | ||
| - Action: Trevor to open an issue on the NAN repo to talk about a stable C++ layer | ||
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| ## Next meeting | ||
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| * May 20th, invite joyent/node TC members, figure out who that is and if this timeslot works for them when we have a combined call tomorrow (14th) |