Life Itself
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2024-04-05Present: Elisa, Rufus, Tom Morgan, Isabela, Simon, Catherine, Matthew, Ola
NotesRufus questions
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2024-04-12Present: Elisa, Catherine, Rufus, Matthew, Simon, James, Nathan, Ola, Isabela, Lauren, Eva, Jonas, Danielle
NotesPresentation
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Room 3 - Isabela, Rufus
3-dimensions one could map onSharing Brainstorm of Dimensions of Difference (Life itself did back in Feb)2x2 matrixGroup discussionJonas
Rufus
Elisa
James
Simon
James
Rufus
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2024-04-19Present: Simon, Isabela, Elisa, Lauren, Rufus, Catherine, Nicholas (briefly), Ola, James
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2R topicsImagine a first issues of a 2R newsletter or some first entries in the wiki. We want topics / ideas etc to highlight. What are some key second renaissance concepts, articles, thinkers/artists/..., movements Scratch board: |
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2024-04-26Present: Rufus, Catherine, Kam*, Matthew, Elisa, Isabela, Lauren, Grace*, Lucy*, Ola, Danielle, Martin, Max* *new joiners
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NotesSpringboard Memo on Longitudinal Research for DDS
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2024-05-03Present: regulars: Simon Lauren Elisa Ola Nicholas Matthew
Notes"A vision for regenerative research knowledge commons"Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Wso7m-yTC9n-k2m-APQnjU47RkzwDuzXRwhvPpb8s_4/edit
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Nicholas:
Elisa:
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what's alive and how are we leaving? Elisa: Alexandre's Q felt alive: remembering the link bewteen the research and what it is for. Not always at the top of the mind. Also quite tired. Ola: what does this mean for me? Where do I fit in to the enquiries for research? How would new people feel about it? Alexandre: super glad, work is interesting and important, happy to participate! Lauren: concurring with Elisa: how is the knowledge and question pulled through to practice? The quantity will be overwhelming, so the simplicity of use will be vital. Matthew: reminded at how much effort and brainpower: opening up something, not just small, so many variables! Nicholas: Q that is alive: what would the process of paying attention to developing the research questions look like? Probably different questions |
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2024-05-24Present: Matthew, Lauren, Elisa, Catherine, Bryan, Isabela, Nicholas, Andrea, James, Jonas, Alexandre NotesBryan Kam's Brown Bag on Neither/NorBackground of how Bryan got interested in this:
There are different skills / strategies that can be cultivated
Isabela: life is about experiencing; pressure to choose 'the dogma' you're going to choose; more about having a methodology, not a dogma Bryan: learned through trial and error and a lot of suffering Jonas: how do you navigate the dogmas? Vervaeke's ideas of ecology of practices - so many practices and variations. Often the advice is to try differnt ones and choose, but how do I know what's working? Bryan: great questions, but I don't know that I can answer them. I won't fall back on 'everyone has to find their own path' Isabela: when you're trying to solve a problem of an abstract nature, you go to books / knowledge in that domain. Suppose you want to start a new workout routine, how do you design it given constraints? Bryan: Schopenhauer: division similar to neither/nor. Talks about world as will and representation. In his view, there's experience, and representaitonal knowledge. E.g. you can get good at pool just by looking at others and trying. The opposite would be to write a book about playing pool. Argues that experience is always spatial. He says that if you want to do something practical, you should start with theory (e.g. start with a recipe if you want to bake a cake). If I'm trying to do something theoretical, I should start with the practical, and vice versa. Isabela: this is so counter to what every academic does. E.g. if you want to suggest a new framework, you're given lots of books, rather than going to practice. Lauren: Bryan: I'm always having a unique experience. Influenced by the way I feel, moods, physiological state, etc. really important to practice cultivation of intuition and attunement to emotion. That pushes towards the unique rather than the conceptual. Feeling states are unique and may recur in certain patterns, and provide level of nuance that can't be captured in a system. The more I cultivate an attentiveness to emotion/embodied existenence, etc., the better I'll become at that side of the practice, and what occurs in that space will re-inform the theory. James: Why "neither/nor" over "both/and"? Bryan: In Greek skepticism, it's important to learn to negate both positive and negative sides. I'm not specifying what polarities we're negating. I'm emphasising neither/nor, because neither reason nor intuition alone is enough to change things. I want to write a second book called both/and, which is more about group practices. Neither/nor is about how to navigate personal questions. But I want to come around and talk about how the same principles operate in groups Alexandre: how do you view accepting the unknown? (?) Bryan: a cultivation of the tolerance for uncertainty is at the heart of what I'm interested in. Building systems that line up conceptually, then you go back to contents and see how they map onto categories. Almost everything we're interested in exists in the intersubjective space ... Need strength to resist impulse to reduce something to a familiar category, and instead wait and see |
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2024-05-31Notes
Matthew introducing Kam Kam Bellamy…white paper focusing on drivers of the meaning crisis
all of these are driving the meaning crisis. Through the lens of micro-colleges, could be any DDS
What are the practices necessary to address the meaning crisis? See white paper intro. Isabela:
Kam: Grace has done the work, would love feedback.
Isabela:
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Simon:
Rufus:
Isabela:
Rufus:
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Idea is to have this maybe in August |
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2024-06-07
Notes (sketchy)Checkins
Andrea's presentation(based on her Diome site)
(on screen)
Q&A
Rufus:
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Kam:
Isabela:
(Invitation to follow up on the WhatsApp group or GitHub Discussions) (Where appropriate, please also go here! Rufus's notes
Would identify four rough categories
Classic marxist historical materialism and cultural materialism
graph TD
culture[Culture i.e. views and values]
tech[Technology and Material structures]
structure[Structure e.g. laws]
tech --> structure
structure --> culture
Primacy of beinggraph TD
culture[Culture i.e. views and values] --> structure[Structure e.g. laws]
structure --> tech[Technology and Material structures]
Of course, in reality this is an ecosystem ... graph TD
culture[Culture i.e. views and values] --> structure[Structure e.g. laws]
structure --> tech[Technology and Material structures]
structure -.-> culture
tech -.-> structure
tech -.-> culture
Should also add pure ontology/psychology (ie. "grasping" seems to be pretty deeply encoded in the psyche) graph TD
subgraph Being
ontology[Ontology/Psychology] --> culture
culture --> ontology
end
culture[Culture i.e. views and values] --> structure[Structure e.g. laws]
structure --> tech[Technology and Material structures]
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2024-06-21 - Presentation from Brandon Norgaard on meta-hubsBrandon presented about meta-hubs: https://enlightenedworldview.com/project-mission/meta-hubs/ Actions
Rufus notes
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2024-06-28 DDS Meeting on an 'Inner Development Atlas'Present: Matthew, Rufus, Christoph, Simon
Inner Development AtlasHypothesis: As part of our ongoing research for DDS's, we outline and make a list of different developmental 'maps' that are out there and compile them in an 'atlas'.
Resourceshttps://lifeitself.org/blog/domains-maps-rafts Domains: A specific area of human development Maps: Describe different locataions within a domain Making an informal list of potential maps – what do we think should be included and why? (not being too strict – feel free to also add additional info/resources)we didn't do much of this but feel free to add later — also add links!
Appendix Are there different kinds of 'maps'/what do we think counts as a map?
How/where should we collect and organize the information for different 'maps'? (Presumably on the wiki)
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2024-07-05welcoming Sami
Rufus:
Concrete questions
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2024-07-12Rufus:Christopher Alexander: Pioneer of a Second Renaissance(Rufus shows his slides: see on his research post)
Today, about value
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Matthew:
Brandon:
Rufus:
Stefan (in chat): There is an “official” Building Beauty post-graduate program (which I have attended), which is run by Maggie Moore Alexander and many people who have studied under and worked with Alexander. https://www.buildingbeauty.org You may be interested in the recently launched Christopher Alexander and CES Archive, which aims to collect all documents and resources by and about him: https://christopher-alexander-ces-archive.org I’ve done a fair bit of research related to Alexander’s work myself. For instance, I’ve written a long series about bridging John Vervaeke’s work about the Meaning Crisis and Alexander’s The Nature of Order. If you want to check that out, or what else I’ve been up to, have a look here: https://stefanlesser.substack.com ” Rufus:
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2024-07-19Present: Simon; Sami; Matthew; Brandon; Rufus (listening in car); Jonas Questions from individualsWhat are the questions that are alive for you, now, in the context of the Life Itself research group? (And which you are able and willing actively to follow up?) MatthewMore research questions
More practical questions about research
SamiWhat are the theories of change underlying large-scale sociocultural changes? SimonI have a few research questions here that I put up a few weeks ago:
And one new one that has occurred to me in recent days:
JonasWhy do our own thing with networking? (or, how to collaborate/scale with others) BrandonIn the two loops model, in general this shows status quo systems descending and becoming obsolete and distinct emergent systems that eventually become predominant. One interpretation of this is based on Bucky Fuller's famous dictum that you don't reform systems from within but make them obsolete with new systems. But it is more likely that you would not create entirely new systems, with all constitutent parts in their institutional structural-functional organization, with all of their symbol systems, with all of their people, entirely distinct from anything that existed before. Instead, it is more likely that emgerent systems would exapt components from older systems. The question is: what elements of the current status quo of institutions in our political, economic, and socio-cultural systems would we likely need to exapt as we work toward fundamental reform in our second renaissance efforts? What sub-elements would need to be reworked, reconstituted, and re-integrated into new and more just, sustainable, and mutually beneficial systems that will take the place of the old ones? Rufus(if possible!) Common themes
Sami and JonasBrandon
Matthew and Simon
Next steps?
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2024-07-26Boaz Feldman:Nervous System Approaches for Resilient Community Livingbuilding on previous talk from January Present: Rufus, Simon, Catherine, Boaz, Matthew Brett (Rufus giving background to Life Itself and the Research Group) Matthew B:
Catherine: currently in Solihull! Boaz
Matthew: question around connection between nervous system and body Rufus: walking meditation
Catherine:
Boaz:
Trusting relationshipsMatthew: like Escrow? Boaz: trust means that we can let go into the space of a relational dyad
Matthew: flow is a useful concept in this context
Boaz:
Rufus:
Boaz:
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2024-08-16Rufus presenting new version of Second Renaissance Theory of Change II: “How”Rufus: metaquestion"do you know of other stuff like this?" i.e. theories of change ... Notes from Simon + Brandon room
Notes from Jonas / Isabela room
Isabela: (in chat)
Rufus: Isabela:
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Rufus point:
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(plenty more discussion around this — we suggested to continue next week) The Zoom chat content17:13:22 From Rufus - Life Itself:
17:18:28 From Simon Grant:
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17:22:57 From Brandon Nørgaard:
17:36:55 From Jonas Søvik, Denmark:
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17:38:49 From Isabela Granic:
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17:55:17 From Jonas Søvik, Denmark:
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18:14:27 From Simon Grant:
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2024-08-23Present: Sami, Jonas (for 30 mins), Simon, Rufus (intermittently) AgendaSami: would like to continue conversation on 2R paper 2 Simon: Would like to bring in Hanzi Freinacht as an alternate perspective ConversationJonas:
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DDS Meeting-August 2024Present: Matthew, Rufus, Boaz, Isabela, Danielle, John, Lauren ContextWe will be using this meeting to provide an 'open space' to brainstorm different kinds of questions and topics as it relates to DDS. We split up into two rooms and investigated possible questions. Notes from open spaces (breakout rooms)DDS room 1: What is developmental “progress”?
Boaz reflections on question on developmental goalsNot having a goal can be a goal. RufusContext: https://lifeitself.org/blog/domains-maps-rafts
LaurenEastern body western mind maps stages of development across both perspectives - predominately on 0-15/18years
Notes on "what is maturation?"
DDS Room 2 - Warm and thick data of development:
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Notes and context for the weekly meetings of the research collective for Q2 of 2024.
Intention of the meetings
To support:
Within our two themes of:
Rough agenda each meeting
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