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PLIP: drop Python 3.8 and 3.9 in Plone 6.1 #3926

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mauritsvanrees opened this issue Mar 13, 2024 · 5 comments
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PLIP: drop Python 3.8 and 3.9 in Plone 6.1 #3926

mauritsvanrees opened this issue Mar 13, 2024 · 5 comments

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mauritsvanrees commented Mar 13, 2024

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Proposer: Maurits van Rees

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Abstract

As agreed in the Plone Steering on 2024-03-07, let's drop Python 3.8 and 3.9 support in Plone 6.1. See community announcement that I just made.

It has already been decided. But in a discussion during the German Plone Tagung last week, we saw value in having a PLIP for all such major changes, even when it is a PLIP after the fact.

Motivation

Until now, the alpha releases of Plone 6.1 supported five Python versions: 3.8 through 3.12. In the next alpha we will drop 3.8 and 3.9. So 6.1 will support 3.10, 3.11, and 3.12. This was agreed during the meeting of the Plone Steering Circle last week. This is a meeting of Plone team leaders.

This means less burden on maintainers within the Plone community, like the release team and A/I team (including testing), and opens up the possibility for Plone core developers to use some more recent features. For inspiration, here is the Python document explaining what is new in each Python version:
https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/index.html

See what's new in 3.9 and 3.10 for what we can now use in 6.1 that was not possible earlier, for example the zoneinfo module and structural pattern matching (match/case).

Assumptions

If you must use an older Python version, you can stay on Plone 6.0, which will support each Python version until it runs out of security support from the Python community. For Python 3.8 this is October 2024, for Python 3.9 this is October 2025. See https://www.python.org/downloads/.

Proposal & Implementation

The only thing we really must do is announce it, and make it clear in the release notes and update the release schedule.

Deliverables

Perhaps:

  • Check if changes in plone/meta are needed for packages that only run on 6.1.

Risks

This will break for users that currently have a 6.1 alpha site on 3.8 or 3.9. But that seems unlikely: I expect all 6.1 users to use at least 3.11.

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  • Maurits van Rees
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tisto commented Jun 28, 2024

I approve this PLIP. cc @plone/framework-team @plone/release-team

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MrTango commented Nov 5, 2024

I approve this PLIP. sorry for the delay

@MrTango MrTango moved this to In Process (approved) in PLIPs (core) Nov 5, 2024
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I'd like to amend the documentation issue with this checklist:

plone/documentation#1721

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I approve this PLIP, and any other documentation issues that may arise as we discover them.

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ale-rt commented Nov 6, 2024

I like it, and personally I would even never use 3.10. In my own experience 3.11 is way faster.

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