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WhyNotWin11.com is not owned by Me #66

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sanny-io opened this issue Jun 27, 2021 · 131 comments
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WhyNotWin11.com is not owned by Me #66

sanny-io opened this issue Jun 27, 2021 · 131 comments
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@sanny-io
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sanny-io commented Jun 27, 2021

https://www.whynotwin11.com

https://i.imgur.com/6Rlz443.png

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. Is this from you @rcmaehl? The download link currently points to this repo's releases, but they might be trying to lay low for a while before switching it out 👀

@rcmaehl rcmaehl self-assigned this Jun 27, 2021
@rcmaehl rcmaehl added critical Fix Immediately, Literally Destroying the Project as we type help wanted Extra attention is needed labels Jun 27, 2021
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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

This website is not owned, operated, or affiliated with me. I'll see if I can get contact information via WHOIS or another means but definitely sketch. It's my fault for not buying the domain

@rcmaehl rcmaehl changed the title There's a new website up about this project WhyNotWin11.com is not owned by Me Jun 27, 2021
@rcmaehl rcmaehl pinned this issue Jun 27, 2021
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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

Hopefully this is someone trying to be helpful but I'll be reaching out to legal council and will make a case if this becomes an issue.

rcmaehl added a commit that referenced this issue Jun 27, 2021
Add warning banner
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krystian3w commented Jun 27, 2021

rcmaehl added a commit that referenced this issue Jun 27, 2021
Improve warning for #66
Fix #64 and change to Yellow ?
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krystian3w commented Jun 27, 2021

@Yuki2718 can by marked as badware risk this commercial domain? like these: uBlockOrigin/uAssets#1738 uBlockOrigin/uAssets#3060

@spirillen fyi

@rcmaehl
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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

The Reddit Account of the site owner has been found but has been inactive for a couple hours. The situation will be updated as it progresses.

@Yuki2718
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@krystian3w Need evidence the site is actually malicious or dangerous for us to block.

@rcmaehl
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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

@Yuki2718 I believe it's evening time for the current owner, however I've contacted them via several methods and are awaiting a reply. I'll keep you informed if anything changes.

@spirillen
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Thanks for your consideration @krystian3w

However, I do not currently see any threats from the domain, however I do believe there are missing a very very important disclaimer about the non-relation to @rcmaehl

If we are scouting the site source code we will find that it yet another wp site and the biggest threat is google, facebook and nocookie.net

When all this said, yes it is ort that all traces of who owns this domain end in a closed reddit account

My conclusion

If things on the site change, yes it would be added, as there currently are nothing dangerous on the site, i would leave it as it is.
It appears mostly like a friendly spider 👾 who helps spreading the word. and the DL links should be monitored and the domain owner should should contact @rcmaehl

HTML decoded
<link rel='dns-prefetch' href='//fonts.googleapis.com' />
	<link rel='stylesheet' id='wp-block-library-css'  href='https://www.whynotwin11.com/wp-includes/css/dist/block-library/style.min.css?ver=5.7.2' type='text/css' media='all' />
<link rel='stylesheet' id='yasrcss-css'  href='https://www.whynotwin11.com/wp-content/plugins/yet-another-stars-rating/includes/css/yasr.css?ver=2.8.1' type='text/css' media='all' />
<link rel='stylesheet' id='google-fonts-style-css'  href='https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans%3A400%2C600%2C700%7CRoboto%3A400%2C500%2C700&#038;display=swap&#038;ver=10.3.8' type='text/css' media='all' />
</div></div></div><div id="pgc-gb14-60d86a683a89c-1-1"  class="panel-grid-cell" ><div id="panel-gb14-60d86a683a89c-1-1-0" class="widget_text so-panel widget widget_custom_html panel-first-child panel-last-child" data-index="2" ><div class="textwidget custom-html-widget"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WhyNotWin11 is a better replacement for Windows 11&#39;s PC Health Check &#8211; <a href="https://twitter.com/LawrenceAbrams?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LawrenceAbrams</a><a href="https://t.co/d5UbPNrzgV">https://t.co/d5UbPNrzgV</a></p>&mdash; BleepingComputer (@BleepinComputer) <a href="https://twitter.com/BleepinComputer/status/1408861525939531778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script></div></div></div></div></div><script type="application/ld+json">{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org\/","@type":"Product","name":"WhyNotWin11","description":"WhyNotWin11 Detection Script to help identify why your PC isn&#8217;t Windows 11 ready Download Version 2.2.2 &nbsp;\u2022&nbsp; 1&nbsp;MB [Total: 1 Average: 5] What is the WhyNotWin11 Tool? WhyNotWin11 is a tool that allows us to check whatever our Computer or Laptop can run Windows 11 or not. Unlike Microsoft&#8217;s Health Check Tool, This WhyNotWin11 Tool...","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"","width":0,"height":0},"Review":null,"aggregateRating":{"@type":"AggregateRating","ratingValue":5,"ratingCount":1,"bestRating":5,"worstRating":1},"brand":"","sku":"","":""}</script>                        </div>
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pixeye33 commented Jun 27, 2021

Since it's not mentioned by anyone yet...

The link to the .exe is no longer pointing to this repo's releases.

The .exe that the website offers does not have the same sha256 signature as the one found in releases (site says it's 2.2.2, i've compared only to this one).

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ did not find anything.

@spirillen
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spirillen commented Jun 27, 2021

True...

a class="maxbutton-1 maxbutton maxbutton-download" href="https://www.whynotwin11.com/WhyNotWin11.exe"><span class='mb-text'>Download</span></a></div>

This makes it a malicious site., Thanks for the update @pixeye33

@rcmaehl
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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

This is a comment to provide verification of the @WhyNotWin11 twitter account

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pixeye33 commented Jun 27, 2021

Correction : exe metadata says its 2.2.4 and the sha256 actually matches the one on the repo...

(for now, is what i implied)

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Correction : exe metadata says its 2.2.4 and the sha256 actually matches the one an the repo...

Still, it makes no sense to rehost file (with wrong release number) It probably mirrors the link from readme
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/latest/download/WhyNotWin11.exe

spirillen added a commit to mypdns/matrix that referenced this issue Jun 27, 2021
Closes https://mypdns.org/my-privacy-dns/matrix/-/issues/1835

See also:
  - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11#66

Signed by @spirillen

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	modified:   source/malicious/wildcard.list
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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

@Yuki2718 situation has changed a bit. I can understand if you're still hesitant, and I'll tag you in any additional changes, but it appears they're specifically trying to hide the fact of the .com banner warning.

(Which is gonna be a bit hard to do if anyone checks for updates on the app.)

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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

Yep, the guy purged information about the owner and the placeholder pages where I had attempted to contact him. I'd rather not involve council butttttttttttt

@JourneyOver
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Going through the persons reddit posts (if I am looking at the correct person that is), it looks like they have done this type of stuff before with other things as well, so I wouldn't expect much from them as it looks like they are just up to no good and just taking advantage again of a popular application.

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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

Going through the persons reddit posts (if I am looking at the correct person that is), it looks like they have done this type of stuff before with other things as well, so I wouldn't expect much from them as it looks like they are just up to no good and just taking advantage again of a popular application.

They have a few accounts ranging between 5-7 years old. All Generic Middle East names.

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They have a few accounts ranging between 5-7 years old. All Generic Middle East names.

Ah the only one I've run across so far that has any mention of the website so far is an account named "chardasyaal", but makes sense that they would have multiple accounts. Hopefully you can get the site shut down :/

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colenh commented Jun 27, 2021

i contacted namecheap via a ticket to report abuse. hope this is solved soon!

@spirillen
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I'll be surprised if you can get the domain down.

But what I can't understand... Why are they putting up that domain, hosting an exe (Currently same sha256/md5).

What is there attempted gain here?? there are no banners/ads or severe tracking/spyware (Yet)

But what confuses me more is there usage of a complete WP setup for one page which could be written with have the bits for the frontpage, and not to mention the entire backend (db/wp-code, etc).

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rcmaehl commented Jun 27, 2021

I'll be surprised if you can get the domain down.

But what I can't understand... Why are they putting up that domain, hosting an exe (Currently same sha256/md5).

What is there attempted gain here?? there are no banners/ads or severe tracking/spyware (Yet)

But what confuses me more is there usage of a complete WP setup for one page which could be written with have the bits for the frontpage, and not to mention the entire backend (db/wp-code, etc).

All I really needed from them was "Hey, I'm X. I'll be sure to keep it the latest build and note that I'm not affiliated somewhere on the page". I would have grabbed the .org anyway (and now have, DNS please propagate)

@thepwrtank18
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how did this turn into a talk about racism

@micwoj92
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micwoj92 commented Jul 5, 2021

Open source is very political.

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rcmaehl commented Jul 5, 2021

Open source is very political.

👀 Linux Kernel Email threads

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iam-py-test commented Jul 5, 2021

I tried to access it & I got this error:
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It seems someone goofed up and made the cert only valid for the www version.
However, my VM's clock is messed up so I can't connect anyway

@spirillen
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God damned.... chrome can be true about itself!!!!

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😏 👿 😮

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iam-py-test commented Jul 5, 2021

... chrome can be true about itself!!!!

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😏 👿 😮

What do you mean?
I tried using Firefox and got the same error.
Or are you talking about Chromium's not-so-secret anti-privacy tactics

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... chrome can be true about itself!!!!
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smirk imp open_mouth

What do you mean?
I tried using Firefox and got the same error.
Or are you talking about Chromium's not-so-secret anti-privacy tactics

google anti-privacy policy, where nothing is private to them, but all about them is private 😏

You know...

||goole.*^

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... chrome can be true about itself!!!!
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smirk imp open_mouth

What do you mean?
I tried using Firefox and got the same error.
Or are you talking about Chromium's not-so-secret anti-privacy tactics

google anti-privacy policy, where nothing is private to them, but all about them is private 😏

You know...

||goole.*^

Ok. I think there is a typo in that filter though.

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micwoj92 commented Jul 5, 2021

Also, was © WhyNotWin11 is owned by Robert C. Maehl. We are not associated with WhyNotWin11 in any way. This is an unofficial free resource website. always at the bottom of the page?

Nope, it's recent addition.

@rcmaehl rcmaehl changed the title WhyNotWin11.com is Malware and not owned by Me WhyNotWin11.com is not owned by Me Jul 5, 2021
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rcmaehl commented Jul 5, 2021

Also, was © WhyNotWin11 is owned by Robert C. Maehl. We are not associated with WhyNotWin11 in any way. This is an unofficial free resource website. always at the bottom of the page?

Nope, it's recent addition.

LGTM.

@thepwrtank18
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their download doesn't even work anymore, just goes back to the home page

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rcmaehl commented Jul 5, 2021

I'm going to go ahead and close this out. While some people may be confused still, I am happy with the disclaimer. I wish they would have replied via the forwarding service and other contact methods, but I'll continue to keep an eye on the situation.

@rcmaehl rcmaehl closed this as completed Jul 5, 2021
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We got a good ending (hopefully it stays that way). Good the situation got resolved.

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spirillen commented Jul 5, 2021

I think we all (BlackList maintainers) should remember to REMOVE whynotwin11.com from our blacklists.... right?

spirillen added a commit to mypdns/matrix that referenced this issue Jul 5, 2021
Closes https://mypdns.org/my-privacy-dns/matrix/-/issues/1835

See also:
  - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11#66 (comment)

Signed by @spirillen

Changes to be committed:
	modified:   source/malicious/combined.txt
	modified:   source/malicious/wildcard.list
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iam-py-test commented Jul 5, 2021

Should we report FPs to the AV detections on VirusTotal? (there is now 4)
I have reported to FortiGuard

@spirillen
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Should we report FPs to the AV detections on VirusTotal? (there is now 4)
I have reported to FortiGuard

VT is only operating a collection of list / results from external sources, such as @mitchellkrogza's https://github.com/mitchellkrogza/Phishing.Database.

Requesting removal from these lists become the site/domain owners own headache.

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Should we report FPs to the AV detections on VirusTotal? (there is now 4)
I have reported to FortiGuard

VT is only operating a collection of list / results from external sources, such as @mitchellkrogza's https://github.com/mitchellkrogza/Phishing.Database.

Requesting removal from these lists become the site/domain owners own headache.

If they are legit, that should not be hard & they might want to

@MrDavisCSIT
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They admit the program isn't theirs, they might be expecting you to buy the domain from them for a 'reasonable sum'...

@twisted-nematic57
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The ads and the articles at the bottom of the page make it look like the domain was obtained for free.
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@krystian3w
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More likely, someone is trying to recoup the cash for paying for the hosting/domain.

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0xpr03 commented Sep 1, 2021

More likely, someone is trying to recoup the cash for paying for the hosting/domain.

You mean the 3€/month webhosting + 10€ domain/year ?

@krystian3w
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Yeah ...in Poland ~60-300 zł (13,50-66,50 €) at year if we found good chip hosting/domain renew.

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re: waiting for you to buy the domain (for a reasonable fee)
On some registries, you can at least put in for a backorder, if they ever forget to renew.

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