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Rust 2024 survey #209

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nikomatsakis opened this issue Jun 7, 2023 · 12 comments
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Rust 2024 survey #209

nikomatsakis opened this issue Jun 7, 2023 · 12 comments
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@nikomatsakis
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Summary

The Rust 2024 edition is coming soon! Any land changes should be RFC'd this year. Let's do a survey of things that could be done over the edition so that we can start tracking as we go into the summer.

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Include any links to material that folks ought to try to read before-hand.

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This issue corresponds to a lang-team design meeting proposal. It corresponds to a possible topic of discussion that may be scheduled for deeper discussion during one of our design meetings.

@nikomatsakis nikomatsakis moved this from Needs triage to Scheduled in T-lang design meeting schedule Jun 7, 2023
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Scheduled for 2023-06-28 and placeholder doc created

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Lokathor commented Jun 7, 2023

the unsafe extern blocks RFC would be edition sensitive, rust-lang/rfcs#3439

@Jules-Bertholet
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rust-lang/rust#59878 would be nice to fix, if negative impls can be stabilized on time

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RalfJung commented Jun 8, 2023

rust-lang/rfcs#3325 is intended to be edition sensitive.

Not sure if there is any point in giving another shot at "removing long-deprecated items that are unsound or almost impossible to use soundly" (mem::uninitialized, before_exec).

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Jules-Bertholet commented Jun 8, 2023

Some more open RFCs that are potentially edition-sensitive:

Open issues not previously mentioned:

@pnkfelix pnkfelix moved this from Scheduled to Needs minutes in T-lang design meeting schedule Jul 11, 2023
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I know there was some discussion about changing the Range/Iter/IntoIterator/Copy fiasco at some point, but I don't believe a concrete proposal came out of it, or if it is even "fixable"

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bstrie commented Jul 27, 2023

@tgross35 I think the Range situation is improvable, although naturally having an RFC is a prerequisite and nobody's going to hold up the edition if an RFC doesn't materialize. I have some thoughts in that area that might lead to an RFC, although I need to page the discussion back into my head.

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I did find some discussion about this rust-lang/rfcs#2848. It seems like the kind of thing where somebody just needs to start writing an RFC and see how well it sticks.

@bstrie if you want to throw some loose ideas into a HackMD document, I don't mind helping formulate them into an RFC (I'm sure others would join too)

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fmease commented Jul 29, 2023

I know this issue is not the right place (the meeting has already happened as far as I can tell) but since there isn't a proper Zulip stream yet (ah, there is one), I'm just gonna nominate the (breaking) feature lazy_type_alias here for inclusion into Rust 2024. It still needs some polish though.

This directly addresses the following point found at the bottom of the HackMD doc:

other things that came up after the meeting

  • Remove where clauses on type aliases or make them work.

Edit: I'm gonna open a Zulip topic for this later, too. Edit: Zulip topic.

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@bstrie I don't know whether you had time to put anything together, but I started a rough outline https://hackmd.io/@8W5l8q6-Qyyn_vKh2-L0RQ/SJ0sBpb22. It should be open for editing if anyone wants to contribute (discussion should probably happen in comments in the doc so as to not derail this thread).

@traviscross traviscross moved this from Needs minutes to Done in T-lang design meeting schedule Jan 3, 2024
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