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Uniformize the API to compute the inverse of an element #17965
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Author: Frédéric Chapoton |
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Here is a first attempt. Opinions ? New commits:
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In general I think unifying this is a good idea. Something to keep in mind is that |
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oh, boy, now with an infinite loop in
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I see no way out other than removing the |
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But basically you want to remove the I am particularly worried about someone could have implemented an algebraic structure just through |
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here is an experimental branch with the default inverse re-activated, let us see what happens. New commits:
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Changed branch from u/chapoton/17965 to public/ticket-17965-experiment |
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well, this seems to be almost green.. |
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It seems like that is unrelated. Have you tested locally? |
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the failure is #33161 ; the tests in this file pass with other random seeds |
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I am basically ready to flip the switch. The last thing I probably would like (although not fully convinced) is to have an alias |
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But this would basically contradict the fact that there is a unique global alias that maps |
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It isn't an alias in the Python sense. However, I didn't think your proposal said there should be a unique such redirect. I don't see any advantages of trying to impose that (it isn't really enforceable either). I think if we are consistent about using |
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Sorry, I am now confused and not sure what you would like me to change. |
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For example, in inverse = __invert__ alias there so the documentation won't change. Anyways, it sounds like you don't really like it and I wasn't convinced of how useful it would be, so we can move on. |
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So, is this a positive review ? |
Reviewer: Travis Scrimshaw |
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Yes. |
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After these changes, is ticket #17692 still relevant? |
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#17692 is independent of these changes (and the main proposal has already been done somewhere else). The issue of whether |
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Replying to Travis Scrimshaw:
No, the bitwise complement question is not the topic of #17692 (it is only mentioned in the very last comment) |
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Replying to Matthias Köppe:
Either way, #17692 is independent of this ticket. (It probably should be closed (again, the main change has been implemented elsewhere) or converted into a bitwise issue ticket.) |
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Some classes in Sage implement the inverse of an element through the
inverse method:
Some other through the
__invert__
method:Usually they provide a crosslink so that
__invert__
andinverse
are equivalent, but this is done on a case by case bases,so of course such links are missing here and there:
Shall we change the code to systematically implement
__invert__
asper Python's convention, and then implement the cross link
inverse
->
__invert__
once for all high up in the class hierarchy,typically in
Magmas.ElementMethods
?Caveat: this won't cover all cases since we have invertible elements
that don't belong to a magma; e.g. a isomorphisms between two
different parents; so it will still be necessary to handle a couple
special cases by hand.
See also comment about
__inverse__
insage.categories.coxeter_groups.py around line 699.
Note: the default implementation ~f = 1/f provided by Element should
probably be implemented in
Monoids.ElementMethods
; see also #17692.Note: the qqbar classes also implement an
invert
method, but that'sfor a slightly different use case. So we may, or not, want to make
this uniform too.
invert
does not fit Sage's usual verb/nounconvention since it's a verb while it is not inplace.
CC: @saliola @videlec @simon-king-jena @slel @tscrim
Component: categories
Author: Frédéric Chapoton
Branch/Commit:
312a91d
Reviewer: Travis Scrimshaw
Issue created by migration from https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17965
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