Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

lost my chat conversations when installing with new iPhone #5832

Open
3 tasks
masterbruce99 opened this issue Jul 9, 2024 · 1 comment
Open
3 tasks

lost my chat conversations when installing with new iPhone #5832

masterbruce99 opened this issue Jul 9, 2024 · 1 comment

Comments

@masterbruce99
Copy link

masterbruce99 commented Jul 9, 2024

  • I have searched open and closed issues for duplicates
  • I am submitting a bug report for existing functionality that does not work as intended
  • This isn't a feature request or a discussion topic

Bug description

I wanted to let you know that I got a new phone and unfortunately, my previous conversations have been lost.

Steps to reproduce

when I download the app and login, chat goups load just not the chat.

Actual result: it just doesn't show the conversation

Expected result: when we get a new phone our conversation should sync with the new phone signal installed.

Device info

iPhone 13 beta 2

iOS version: X.Y.Z
iOS 18.0 (22A5297F)
Signal version: Z.Y
7.18 (190)

@LiroyvH
Copy link

LiroyvH commented Jul 20, 2024

Signal for iOS is specifically designed to destroy your entire message history when something bad happens and deliberately does not offer any backup feature. The developers have even gone a step further by setting certain flags that actively ensure you cannot manually make any local backups either. The reasons for this are completely unknown, as its perfectly possible to implement a safe and secure backup feature within iOS as demonstrated by many applications. (Local, encrypted to iCloud, encrypted to AMB, etc.) Heck, even WhatsApp of all places has a means to backup to iCloud with an encryption key of your choosing. Signal could implement the same or simply allow users to disable the flag that prevents the database being included in AMB and/or iCloud device backups.

The Signal team rarely to never responds to questions about this and has ignored this #1 ranking wish among the userbase for years now, which is unfortunate as many people who moved to Signal moved back to (far) less privacy friendly apps because they lose their history. It looks like the team has taken the stance that message history and memories should not be considered important at all by anyone and thus does not warrant implementing any method to make a backup. The only thing it allows is moving it to another iPhone; which is of course utterly useless if your iPhone is broken, stolen or reset for whatever reason.

The only thing you can currently do is link your iOS device to a Mac/PC and generate backups by decrypting the message database there, but that only works for messages you send and receive from that point on. Other than that, you're SOL. It's rather unfortunate Signal doesn't warn users about this (I do feel the team should take more responsibility for making choices that really hurt the userbase when it catches them by surprise), but it is what is.

Good luck and keep your messages safe!

Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Labels
None yet
Development

No branches or pull requests

2 participants