Include SID suffixes

[eliuuk]

Include the suffix property in SID drawing and pronunciation.

[erikquinn]

@Fechulo @indianbhaji @jakobeng1303 @lachsschinken124

Anybody--

Can I count on SID/STAR/transition suffixes always being 2 characters? For example "CPT" plus "2F" --> "CPT2F", or can they sometimes be not two characters? I haven't come across this yet, but would like to avoid some messy and unnecessary work if I can just remove the last two digits from "CPT2F" for the simulation logic to find the "CPT" sid. If not, I'll have to have it do some more complicated searching stuff that is best avoided if possible.

[eliuuk]

There's only one instance that I've found (which was coincidently an hour ago) with a SID in Schiphol that had 3 characters on the end.

[eliuuk]

I can remove that one instance if you wish, it's a useless SID anyways.

[erikquinn]

Okay, as long as its SUPER rare, I can move ahead this way. Thanks for the quick response.

[eliuuk]

@erikquinn Oh no, no no! ZSPD has 3 characters.

[eliuuk]

@erikquinn A lot of them!

[erikquinn]

@indianbhaji UGGGHHHH alright, I'll figure something out. 😭 lol

[erikquinn]

@Fechulo @indianbhaji @jakobeng1303 @lachsschinken124

One more thing: When you assign a SID manually, would you prefer to specify just the fix name, or would you actually specify the full name WITH suffix? Eg:

• sid CPT
• sid CPT4K

[eliuuk]

@erikquinn With suffix. CPT3K would be an older revision, and they increase with each new revision.

[eliuuk]

@erikquinn Do you intend on "collapsing" the SIDs in ZSPD into one SID? ie. all the ANDs come together? If not, it'll probably save you on a job of having to create something extra, since all the SIDs in ZSPD are already separate procedures.

[erikquinn]

Eventually, everything should be collapsed. It will work to leave them separate, but for readability, they should eventually be shrunk to a single "AND" procedure, with the appropriate suffix and rwy sections, and the sim should be able to make it all work properly. Should make it easier to create and maintain airports this way.

[eliuuk]

Thanks, but the thing with ZSPD is that there are a load of AND SIDs, and I
believe there are more SIDs than runways.

[luznicky]

Hi,
do you also know, that you can have more suffixes for one RWY. Like ARTUP2A and ARTUP2M which both are valid. (See http://lis.rlp.cz/ais_data/aip/data/valid/a2-pr-sid24n.pdf). It's not big deal as you can choose the one which suits your defined departures.

[eliuuk]

@luznicky Yep, and that's the problem. If we were to collapse all the SIDs with different suffixes into one SID, how would you tell the game which set of fixes are for this particular suffix? If you look at ZSPD, the AND SID comes with many different variations and suffixes.

[eliuuk]

@erikquinn How's the progress on this?

[erikquinn]

@indianbhaji No change, but lots of things in this realm are being improved, so it's only a matter of time. But no work has been done on this directly.

[erikquinn]

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