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Uncheck Social blocking by default in install navigation #3776

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Yuki2718 opened this issue May 4, 2021 · 14 comments
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Uncheck Social blocking by default in install navigation #3776

Yuki2718 opened this issue May 4, 2021 · 14 comments

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@Yuki2718
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Yuki2718 commented May 4, 2021

I opened ticket here but AFAIK the same goes for almost all AG platforms, please move to an appropriate repository if needed. If you skip on-install navigation, only adblocking filters will be enabled. However, if you choose the navigation and keep everything as default, social widgets will be blocked. In most of other software default-checked items are the same as you skipped navigation, moreover, apparently this has been causing trouble among user not aware of the meaning:

https://twitter.com/Lhaplus_K/status/1363693542325977094
https://twitter.com/show_u_4212/status/1227916684771524609
https://twitter.com/futsuka_t/status/1362075111633739782
https://twitter.com/Adonika8192/status/1332852799944572928

ABP once blocked social widgets by default but reverted back. Social blocking should be opt-in, not opt-out.

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  1. Fresh install AG for Win

Expected behavior

Social widget blocking should be unchecked by default

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Checked

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@TheHasagi
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@Yuki2718

Especially for such cases, when the user goes through all the configuration steps on his own, one or another option is explained in detail at each of them. Therefore, I see no reason to remove the checkbox from this setting page.

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Yuki2718 commented May 4, 2021

@TheHasagi I didn't request removing the option but requested uncheck by default. Did you see linked Tweets (need translation)? Lots of people have no idea why Tweet buttons are hidden. And I don't feel the option is explained in details for average Joe.

@Yuki2718
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Yuki2718 commented May 5, 2023

It's still the same. Even if it's explained in details, most user will not pay much attention and day after day I see users getting in trouble by them being hiden. Some of them explicitly name AdGuard as shown below and one of them I advised confirmed it's in fact Social filter that was the culprit (I also reproduced the second tweet if Social filter is enabled):

https://twitter.com/soukusu/status/1652542102214180867
https://twitter.com/M_MimosaFF14/status/1653348950404108288

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cc (for Slack discussion the other day): @ameshkov

@Yuki2718
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Yuki2718 commented May 9, 2023

Another case: https://twitter.com/Huey_Madnar409/status/1655926133249167361

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This whole screen will make little sense when the option is unchecked.

I am surprised that the social widgets are that popular in Japan, never seen similar complaints from other users before.
Could it be a survivorship bias and most of the users actually don't want to see those widgets?

Let me check the filter lists download numbers from the browser extension. There people choose the lists to use and it will be more apparent if it should be enabled by default or not.

@Yuki2718
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This whole screen will make little sense when the option is unchecked.

I don't think so, giving user a chance to custimize filter option makes sense. The point is that the results when user didn't change any settings should be the same with the case user skipped this navigation, and as you once said anything other than core ad-blocking lists should be optional.

I am surprised that the social widgets are that popular in Japan, never seen similar complaints from other users before. Could it be a survivorship bias and most of the users actually don't want to see those widgets?

Could be, but does that matter? I'm pretty sure much more user feel cookie consent annoying but it's not enabled by default.

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https://twitter.com/lonly_arai/status/1662194079277662213
https://twitter.com/otukaroon_1028/status/1662418199286284288

@ameshkov
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Interesting. We'll need to somehow take this into account when designing the new onboarding for AG v8.0.

With the current UI having a screen with a single disabled checkbox is illogical.

But again, the issue seems to be very specific to Japan, I don't see such reports in other languages.

@Yuki2718
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I don't know about other region as I only check Japanese Tweet, but how about showing all popular lists with plain explanation of each and with all of them disabled by default? Actually extensions already do a kind of this, why don't consolidate?

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@Yuki2718
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https://twitter.com/mil_kmt/status/1679454077493862400

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https://twitter.com/gowan501/status/1694400174142140511 Probably the most clear descrption ever seen

@ameshkov
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We actually took this into account for a new onboarding in v8.0

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Extension but possibly worth mentioning AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters#172033 (comment)

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Yuki2718 commented Mar 24, 2024

A complete example a user uninstalled AG for Windows for this: https://twitter.com/tomoto108/status/1771812929995755848

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