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Non Image thumbnails #1176

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azaroth42 opened this issue Jun 16, 2017 · 7 comments
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Non Image thumbnails #1176

azaroth42 opened this issue Jun 16, 2017 · 7 comments

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@azaroth42
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For audio only canvases, the only "thumbnail" available might be a short audio clip rather than an image. Similarly for video, the thumbnail might be a video.

I propose to allow these as thumbnails, and thus require both id and type on a thumbnail resource.

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AV call 08/22: As points to a specific format, it would point to a particular encoding of a video rather than the multi-format choice or canvas.

Challenge then is what to do for clients that only support one of the encodings, and how to describe the resource in sufficient detail that the client can determine which to use. Currently no documentation about the implication of more than one thumbnail. No service available for AV, compared to Images.

@azaroth42
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Getty AV discussion: All of the thumbnails should be equally useful, such that if you pick any one of them depending on the current client environment, it should be sufficient. Otherwise 👍

@jronallo
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May help to see some examples of what this would look like with different and multiple formats to have something more to comment on.

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bvibber commented Sep 26, 2017

Possible examples:

  • duration canvas with one MP3, one WAV, and one Ogg. All three should be considered equivalent and whichever one is best fit for playback capability is used?
  • duration canvas with one JPEG and one MP3. JPEG should be used in visual contexts, MP3 should be used in audio contexts?
    • accessibility scenarios may encourage use of audio, for instance, or it may be selected explicitly
  • spatial+duration canvas with one JPEG, one MP4, and one WebM. JPEG should be used if video playback unsuitable, or whichever of MP4 or WebM is preferred by the browser should be played if able to play it?

@julsraemy
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Also, an audio thumbnail for a manuscript is good for accessibility purposes.

@azaroth42 azaroth42 added ratify and removed discuss labels Sep 27, 2017
@jpstroop
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Toronto WG Plenary: 👍, modulo a question about using label or another method for alt text (wrt accessibility). See #1288.

Also, needed to clarify via disucssion that:

  • thumbnail is always a list
  • Multiple Types are allowed,
  • More than one of the same type is allowed

@azaroth42
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Thumbnail is always a list is pretty clear in the spec:

The value MUST be a JSON array, with each item in the array being a JSON object that must have an id property and should have at least one of type and format.

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