Docker for production #4665
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@omaralsoudanii thanks for opening this issue! It's been nice talking to you over at nds-org/ndslabs-dataverse#8 but this main issue tracker for Dataverse is a better place to discuss the state of Docker support. I can try to explain. The short answer is that unfortunately, there is no production-ready Docker image for Dataverse as of this writing. I'm still learning Docker and its ecosystem so I'd like to know from you and others who are interested in Docker support how you expect it to work. Do you expect all of Dataverse to be running in a single container? Do you expect some of the components such as PostgreSQL and Solr to be running in different containers? Do you expect to use If you look at the source tree, this is what you will find today:
I hope this helps. If you and others interested in Docker support can answer the questions above or other questions I don't even know to ask, it would be very helpful! Thanks! |
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@pdurbin Thanks for this , And a docker-composer.yml file that will build 3 images / 3 containers for those automatically , Because the problem we're having now is in order to update and maintain data verse we need to adjust DockerFile manually (change data verse instance version) and do the update process manually (run each Postgress schema changes manually ) , So some automated script that takes cares of those would be nice . Another suggestion would be that the data verse team adjusts the DockerFile configuration each time an update to data verse is released so that we can simply pull docker changes from data verse repo and do :
For our current version (4.7) though we're trying to update to the latest version (4.8.6) in order to use the license and restrict files native API but i need a fresh data verse Postgres database , Is there a script or sql file for that? Thank you. |
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@omaralsoudanii Any thoughts on an additional container for apache? My understanding is that it's preferable to not expose glassfish/dataverse directly to the outside world, so it might make sense to deal with it at this level of abstraction (but I'm not currently planning on using dockerized dataverse in production, so input from folks that are would be interesting). |
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hey everyone! I think I can definitely help with this, and I'd like to suggest starting with a simple docker-compose setup, and then using kompose to transition to kubernetes when the time is right! I'll start poking around this weekend (I'm not familiar with the code base) and then we can loop back next week (when the RedHat intern joins up?) How would you like to have our mentoring / discussion? Github? Slack? Other? |
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@vsoch thanks for the offer to help with this effort! I haven't even met the intern yet but @danmcp mentioned internship goals the other day at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2018-05-22#i_67516 . I believe @djbrooke said this individual might be starting as soon as next week and I said I'd be happy to mentor him or her on all things related to Dataverse. I'm happy to help you and others dive in as well, of course! Perhaps a timeline of events (from my perspective anyway) would help ground us:
I'm probably forgetting people and events but it's a start. In a future comment I'd like to write more about how I can imagine the work for this issue being broken up into smaller chunks. |
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@vsoch The idea of starting with docker-compose sounds like a reasonable place to start. There's an example of docker-compose in this repository (although intended for a different purpose) in One thing that may be a factor for production-izing Docker/Dataverse (and that @pdurbin and I have talked about) is how to handle the intersection of the docker entry point and the dataverse installer. It's very likely that the approach I've been taking as been sub-optimal for production usage (and so wouldn't make a good prototype for production). |
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Probably our docker-compose from DataverseEU project can be interesting to try as well: https://github.com/Dans-labs/dataverse-docker/blob/master/docker-compose.yml |
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@pameyer agreed I would not have the command coincide with the entire install, so the container can be restarted without prompting it done again! @4tikhonov the work you've done for DataverseEU looks great! It's 99% there! Is it just a matter of combining the two repos into a consolidated thing with a good set of docs? With your blessings I can give a first shot at this. |
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Thanks! We're running it with Kubernetes on Google Cloud already http://dataverse-dev.cessda.eu |
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So what needs to be done then? |
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We're still working on the proxy implementation for multilingual support to get different languages on selected path (/fr for French, for example). First we tried with apache but Google Cloud already has nginx as integrated service running inside of Kubernetes, it seems to be better solution. |
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@4tikhonov How did you end up handling the entrypoint / installer issue (run installer in entrypoint, something else)? |
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@pameyer, I remember that you advised me to do health check before running installer second time: It's in entrypoint indeed, if size > 0 then Dataverse is already installed and further installation steps can be skipped. |
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@4tikhonov I know it's quittin' time for you you but if you're up for a wild Friday night in Dataverse IRC we're chatting now: http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2018-05-25#i_67861 😄 |
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What time zone are you guys in? We can arrange a larger group chat maybe
after the holiday weekend after I've gotten a chance to look at the code?
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hey everyone I just tested https://github.com/Dans-labs/dataverse-docker and it is a solid start, could someone again tell me why this isn't what you want? |
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@vsoch hi! Thanks for taking a look. Personally, I've been more focused on the OpenShift use case and documented what we've been up to at http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.8.6/developers/containers.html I'm sorry to say that I haven't looked closely at the @Dans-labs work by @4tikhonov but I believe @pameyer has so he might be in a better position than I am to comment. Ideally we'll have a solution that works on:
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I think it would be worth having someone look at his good solution before asking someone else to start over :) My comments would be small tweaks to the containers (e.g., adding |
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@vsoch that makes total sense. I did take a quick look just now. @omaralsoudanii since you opened this issue, can you please try https://github.com/Dans-labs/dataverse-docker and provide feedback on if it's going to work for you? @4tikhonov are they any specific bugs or issues with that repo before anyone should use it in production? @aculich do you want to give that repo a try as well? |
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@4tikhonov I think you've done a great start and I can offer to help, but only if you need/want it. |
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@vsoch, thanks, we're very indeed interested to get feedback. Our goal is to get it finally integrated with master branch at some point. |
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@4tikhonov is there anything holding you back from making a pull request? |
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@pdurbin @4tikhonov One question i have is what's the steps required if say a new dataverse version is up in the repo , Will this docker image auto update the version when using docker-compose build ( without deleting the existing data) or any further steps required ? I will provide more feedback after testing it with the native API . Thank you |
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@4tikhonov any thoughts on the question by @omaralsoudanii above? There's a section of the Installation Guide I wrote called "Choose Your Own Installation Adventure" which is inspired by a series of books I enjoyed as a child. Under "Advanced Installation" I mention community-supported adventures such as https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-ansible by @donsizemore and it would make sense to me to have the Docker/Kubernetes installation adventure by @4tikhonov fall into the community-supported category as well. That is, @4tikhonov and others in the community could publish Docker images as new releases of Dataverse come out. I'd be happy to give @4tikhonov and others "push" access to a new repo under the @IQSS GitHub organization if that makes sense. Please just let me know! |
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@omaralsoudanii, it should work for other Dataverse versions as well as latest version should be downloaded to Docker container from GitHub. @pdurbin, I think it's great idea and I would like to participate in this Docker/Kubernetes installation adventure. |
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@4tikhonov great! What would you like the repo under @IQSS to be called?
I'll set up a team and give you push access. And whoever else you want. |
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@pdurbin dataverse-docker is fine, thanks, Phil! |
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@4tikhonov sure! I just created https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-docker and added you to both of these teams:
The repo is empty right now but you should be able to push code there and add more collaborators. Please let me know if you have any trouble. Thanks! |
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Holy cow @pdurbin you just won the award for the highest density of references and links I've ever seen in a single comment, anywhere! 🎊 Thank you! This looks like an awesome resource and I'll check it out! |
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@vsoch unfortuntely at #4152 (comment) we learned that the instance of NDS Labs Workbench we've been talking about won't be supported any more. The code remains open source if someone else wants to run it. Meanwhile, some excellent progress was made by @poikilotherm yesterday toward deploying his community-supported dataverse-kubernetes effort on AWS. Even though in gdcc/dataverse-kubernetes#12 I was asking for EKS support (also discussed at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2019-04-24#i_91578 ), all I think I really wanted was a way to deploy his solution on AWS somehow. In pull request gdcc/dataverse-kubernetes#45 he has created what looks like fantastic documentation on how to run dataverse-kubernetes on AWS using kops. I haven't tried it myself but from what I hear at http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2019-04-25#i_91713 it sounds awesome. All you need is an AWS account, which we also document at http://guides.dataverse.org/en/4.13/developers/deployment.html . I haven't tried it myself but I'd like to encourage anyone reading this to try out the readme in that pull request and report back here any feedback. From my perspective, this unblocks this issue, potentially at least. I don't believe anyone is using dataverse-kubernetes in production yet, but @poikilotherm plans to. Additionally, @4tikhonov recently tweeted at https://twitter.com/4tykhonov/status/1116229640232873984 some slides regarding his dev process which makes use of https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-docker and a continous integration pipeline. You can see some more discussion about this (and screenshots) at #5725 (comment) and #5751 (comment) . I don't believe anyone is using dataverse-docker in production yet. I think it's mostly used for (fantastic) demos. I'd be interested in knowing how easy it is to deploy dataverse-docker to AWS since that's the cloud resource that's available to me. @omaralsoudanii what is your status, please? Have you been experimenting with running Dataverse in Docker? @xibriz I recently learned that @poikilotherm is also using GitLab CI. You two might want to coordinate. |
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@pdurbin Since you have an incredible overview of everything, I have to let you know that I will leave my job at UiT in about a month. As far as I know, no one will be taking over the Kubernetes-trials at UiT :/ |
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@xibriz thanks for the update! Good luck on your future adventures! I'd love to see you in Cambridge again some day! 😄 |
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@pdurbin thanks for letting me know - it's an incredible (and costly) effort to provide this kind of resource and I understand not being able to support it forever. It's really fantastic to see all the great work on Dataverse! Heads up @poikilotherm the link at the top of your repo here is 404. I still have yet to figure out how to easily develop with an actual cluster (without the immense burden of costs) but I'm learning a lot of GoLang and working on supported tools to hopefully learn a bit regardless. Definitely ping me if I can be of any help, other than offering words of encouragement! :) |
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@vsoch seems like the link I used was accidentially a link you can only follow when accessing logged in... Thx for pointing that out, will change it. |
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I'm not worthy!!! Just kidding :) |
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@omaralsoudanii are you still interested in this? There are some community efforts to run Dataverse on Docker in production but it is not supported by IQSS. |
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The first installation of Dataverse to advertise itself as running on Kubernetes in production was just added to the map at https://dataverse.org/installations
@poikilotherm is my hero! 🎉 He recently gave a talk at http://talks.bertuch.name/dataverse-k8s-20200124/ about running Dataverse on Kubernetes:
Awesome. |
Great news! |
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Great, congratulations, @poikilotherm! I'm also convinced that Kubernetes is the only way to go, all services should follow the same direction to increase the maturity, not only Dataverse. |
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@portante thanks for the shout out at https://twitter.com/pportante/status/1233367941346885633 ! When should we circle back to #4040 ? 😄 |
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@4tikhonov I absolutely agree! At @pidapalooza 2020 someone told me, "For anything new, it has to run on Kubernetes." Hmm, come to think of it... what's the definition of done for this issue? 😄 |
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@pdurbin asked me to link to gdcc/dataverse-kubernetes#129 here because of the first bullet in #4040 being about running things on OpenShift. @portante is this still relevant for you? |
Wait a little bit and I'm pretty sure we can bring really big fish to the Dataverse community. |
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@pdurbin vote to close. With https://github.com/gdcc/dataverse-kubernetes and https://github.com/gdcc/dataverse/tree/develop+ct we should have sufficient things in place. Dunno if https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse-docker is made for production. |
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Thx @poikilotherm and others for all of the work on various solutions in the container space. I'll close this as we already have Docker and Kubernetes on https://guides.dataverse.org/en/latest/developers/containers.html and we can add more community solutions as they reach maturity. |
Hello ,
Is there official production ready docker container for data verse ? and if available where can i find the docs?
Thank you
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