future3 | Install on 64bit not working (Wrong OS type)

[BugHunter2k]

Describe your problem

Installation aborts with:

Checking OS type ... aarch64
ERROR: Only 32 bit operating systems supported. Please use a 32bit version of RaspianOS!

What's your hardware set up?

RPi 4 Model B with 4GB
OS: Raspberry Pi OS Lite (32-Bit)

installation Checks uname -m that gives aarch64 (Procesortype)

Better Checks would be:

command	output
dpkg --print-architecture	armhf
getconf LONG_BIT	32

[AlvinSchiller]

On Pi 4 a 64-bit kernel is running by default. See raspberrypi/firmware#1795

It can be switched to 32-bit by adding arm_64bit=0 to config.txt.

After that the installation should work.

[s-martin]

It can be switched to 32-bit by adding arm_64bit=0 to config.txt.

After that the installation should work.

Would make sense to add that to the docs.

[pabera]

It can be switched to 32-bit by adding arm_64bit=0 to config.txt.
After that the installation should work.

Would make sense to add that to the docs.

+1

We can directly link to this in the install script as well.

[pabera]

This has been added to the documentation for now #2057
It might be interesting to use @BugHunter2k's solutions long-term. Maybe you find the time to put it into a pull request?

[AlvinSchiller]

With the error reports from #1815 (comment) on using a mixed setup (32 bit OS and 64 bit Kernel), maybe this check is the right thing to do after all? @pabera

If so, the message should be updated accordingly.

[s-martin]

Do we know what does not work with 64 bit exactly?

[pabera]

Do we know what does not work with 64 bit exactly?

ERROR: Only 32 bit operating systems supported. Please use a 32bit version of RaspianOS!

We are defining this boundary ourselves, and in fact we haven't tested if this actually already works. Docker Development environments run on 64bit, so I would believe this can also work for RPi with amd64/aarch64.

We just need to test and in case all works well, we can remove this check entirely.

But, the question is, what is the optimal solution for a Phoniebox when it comes to speed (on start up) and compatibility (of newer and older libaries). Here are a few considerations.

32-bit Architecture

• Pros:
  1. Compatibility with older software
  2. Lower RAM usage
  3. Better stability on older Raspberry Pi models.
• Cons:
  1. Limited RAM utilization on models with 4GB or more
  2. Slower performance for some tasks
  3. Potential future compatibility issues

64-bit Architecture:

• Pros
  1. Full RAM utilization on models with 4GB or more
  2. Improved performance for resource-intensive tasks
  3. Better future compatibility
• Cons
  1. Potential compatibility issues with older software
  2. Higher RAM usage

[s-martin]

I think once we have tested 64 bit, we could remove the check.

Older Pi’s run on 32 bit anyway, so it shouldn’t be a problem for those, right?

[wrsmcode]

Hello tother...
i have tested the installation prozess and can agree with this settings to config.txt:
arm_64bit=0

AND, i think an important step, that is not documented yet --> Expand filesystem!
by reading the install-steps, i didn't do that, and after about 3/4h my installation-prozess terminates by an error.
lookin in the log file, i'll knew the error --> not enough space :/

would be nice, if someone can write this in the installation-description.

cheers
Joko

[AlvinSchiller]

Hi Joko(@wrsmcode),

AND, i think an important step, that is not documented yet --> Expand filesystem!

Usually the expansion is performed by default on first boot.
How did you flash your SD Card and what image did you use?

[s-martin]

#2313 (comment)

64 bit seems to work, we could discuss, if we remove that boundary @pabera

[s-martin]

#2402 may also be 64bit related.

[harrydoddnoble]

the 5 cannot run 32 bit kernel - is there any way to run Jukebox on a 5?

[s-martin]

#2425 fixed.