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Specification of AssociatedEmptyRoom #790

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hoechenberger opened this issue May 2, 2021 · 1 comment · Fixed by #918 or #1093
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Specification of AssociatedEmptyRoom #790

hoechenberger opened this issue May 2, 2021 · 1 comment · Fixed by #918 or #1093
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@hoechenberger
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Hello,

MEG experimental data often comes with an associated "empty-room" recording, which is supposed to capture the signal recorded with no participant present.

BIDS allows to indicate which empty-room recording belongs to an experimental recording via the AssociatedEmptyRoom key in *_meg.json. Specifically, the specs state the following:

Relative path in BIDS folder structure to empty-room file associated with the subject’s MEG recording. The path needs to use forward slashes instead of backward slashes (for example, "sub-emptyroom/ses-/meg/sub-emptyroom_ses-_task-noise_run-_meg.ds").

Two questions came to my mind:

  • The path is supposed to be "relative", but it's unclear to me what the reference point is supposed to be. Intuitively, I assumed it's either the location of *_meg.json, or of the experimental recording. However, the path in the example seems to be relative to the BIDS root. What is the correct way to specify AssociatedEmptyRoom?
  • The path in the example has empty ses and run entities. I didn't know this was even valid. Is that a mistake?

For reference, this is the schema currently used for validation of AssociatedEmptyRoom. It's … under-complex and therefore didn't provide me with any additional clues:
https://github.com/bids-standard/bids-validator/blob/2f0ca2458cff47e1fd1f898c3a81aef370558085/bids-validator/validators/json/schemas/meg.json#L48-L59

Thanks for you help,

Richard

@hoechenberger hoechenberger added the MEG Magnetoencephalography label May 2, 2021
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Thanks for opening this Richard, ... it definitely needs some clarification ... and a bugfix for the example that you point out:

https://github.com/bids-standard/bids-specification/blame/master/src/04-modality-specific-files/02-magnetoencephalography.md#L136

"sub-emptyroom/ses-/meg/sub-emptyroom_ses-_task-noise_run-_meg.ds"

This whole issue is very much related to the issues we have with IntendedFor:

cc @robertoostenveld @effigies

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