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Create chicago-fullnote-bibliography-manuscript.csl #7163

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A variant of Chicago 17th Notes & Bibliography full note style with changes to manuscript and letter item types that better match Chicago guidance.

The specific edits I made are detailed below, with my rationale following each bullet point:

Titles:

  • Removal of the quotation marks around manuscript and letter item types and manuscript collection titles. If you want an item to have quotation marks around the title, you can add curly quotation marks to the Zotero title field. This allows users to decide for themselves whether or not the item at hand requires quotation marks around the title.
  • Removal of default title casing for manuscript and letter titles in footnotes. Manuscript and letter titles will appear as entered in the Zotero field. Chicago guidance is nuanced; users can decide for themselves whether title or sentence casing is most appropriate for the item at hand.

Dates:

  • Removal of the parentheses around a date or “n.d.” in a manuscript item footnote. Chicago guidance does not contain parentheses around dates in manuscript citations.
  • Removal of the “n.d.” from manuscript collection bibliography entries. If dates are associated with a manuscript collection, they typically appear as part of the title. The indication of “no date” is not needed for the collection as a whole.
  • The date format for manuscript and letter citations has been changed from month-day-year to day-month-year. Chicago guidance accepts both formats, but their examples employ day-month-year.

Subsequent citations:

  • If a date is present in the Zotero date field, it will appear in subsequent shortened citations for manuscript and letter item types. If no date is present in Zotero, the “n.d.” will not appear in subsequent shortened citations. Chicago guidance indicates that more information than just the title may be useful in subsequent citations. Dates can be useful to distinguish between multiple similar documents.
  • If the user enters text into the Place field in manuscript item types, that text will appear at the end of the shortened citation. This can be used for names of manuscript collections or repositories, if needed (e.g., if you have documents with similar titles across multiple collections or repositories). It may be useful to distinguish multiple similar documents by the collection or holding repository.

A few notes about how to best use this edited citation style:

  • Use separate manuscript item and collection records: Create separate Zotero records for each individual manuscript item that you cite from the archival collection, plus another Zotero record for the collection as a whole. Use the individual manuscript item records to create footnote citations. Use the collection record for the bibliography. Note that when you put together the bibliography, you can use the functionality of the Zotero plugin in Word to edit the bibliography: specifically, you can remove the individual manuscript items from the bibliography and add in the collection record.

  • Additional editing needed for letters that are part of manuscript collections:

  • Instead of using the “Author”, “Contributor”, and “Recipient” options in Zotero’s creator field, write [sender’s name] to [recipient’s name] in the title field, as you’d like it to appear in the citation.

  • For shortened subsequent citations, enter the shortened version of the title into the “Short Title” field in Zotero (e.g., Smith to Williams).

A variant of Chicago 17th Notes & Bibliography full note style with changes to manuscript and letter item types that better match Chicago guidance.
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😃 Your submission passed all our automated tests.

Below are some sample citations generated based on your proposed changes:

chicago-fullnote-bibliography-manuscript.csl (new)
Bob Hancké, Martin Rhodes, and Mark Thatcher, eds., Beyond Varieties of Capitalism: Conflict, Contradiction, and Complementarities in the European Economy (Oxford and New York: Oxford University Press, 2007); “CSL Search by Example,” Citation Style Editor, 2012, http://editor.citationstyles.org/searchByExample/.
Isabela Mares, “Firms and the Welfare State: When, Why, and How Does Social Policy Matter to Employers?,” in Varieties of Capitalism. The Institutional Foundations of Comparative Advantage, ed. Peter A. Hall and David Soskice (New York: Oxford University Press, 2001), 184–213; Martin Fenner et al., “A Data Citation Roadmap for Scholarly Data Repositories,” Scientific Data 6, no. 1 (April 10, 2019): 28, https://doi.org/10.1038/s41597-019-0031-8.

Citation Style Editor. “CSL Search by Example,” 2012. http://editor.citationstyles.org/searchByExample/.
Fenner, Martin, Mercè Crosas, Jeffrey S. Grethe, David Kennedy, Henning Hermjakob, Phillippe Rocca-Serra, Gustavo Durand, et al. “A Data Citation Roadmap for Scholarly Data Repositories.” Scientific Data 6, no. 1 (April 10, 2019): 28. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41597-019-0031-8.
Hancké, Bob, Martin Rhodes, and Mark Thatcher, eds. Beyond Varieties of Capitalism: Conflict, Contradiction, and Complementarities in the European Economy. Oxford and New York: Oxford University Press, 2007.
Mares, Isabela. “Firms and the Welfare State: When, Why, and How Does Social Policy Matter to Employers?” In Varieties of Capitalism. The Institutional Foundations of Comparative Advantage, edited by Peter A. Hall and David Soskice, 184–213. New York: Oxford University Press, 2001.

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adam3smith commented Aug 27, 2024

Thanks! So, two separate issues here:

  1. We're not going to create a separate variant for Chicago style. If we should fix something in the existing Chicago styles, that should happen in the styles. (Obviously you're free to use and distribute these styles yourself; I understand this may work much better than the existing style for you; we're just not going to publish them on the main CSL repository)
    2.While I do agree that better handling of archival manuscripts is worth another look, I don't think I agree with many of the approaches taken here:
  • Chicago Manual is consistent in using title case for titles in English
  • I disagree with removing dates. 14.229 includes an example with n.d. -- everything else does include dates
  • The parentheses around the date are tricky -- they are included for unpublished manuscripts in 14.215 but not for archival manuscripts -- might make sense to test for archival information in that case to determine the date format
  • place (csl's publisher-place isn't intended for archival information. With CSL 1.0.2 we have a nice set of archival fields that should be used instead (and can be entered in Zotero using Extra)
  • also disagree with requiring 'incorrectly' entering letters. CSL should be capable of doing this properly using author and recipient. No need for a title for letters.

I haven't gone through all items, but that covers the big picture.

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