Is the project future at risk? #4544
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I see that Weave Works have finished the budget for the project. Many developers that are full time on Flux2 have no option than to get on other trains or continue on a personal investment. Is it time to look around? Do we have a donation/business support fee to opt to? Many companies rely on this project to go on so a little perspective is needed here. |
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Flux reached all the criteria to become a CNCF Graduated Project. So long term support should be fine. But you are right that most contributions are provided by Weaveworks. Why do you think this will change? |
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Yes this is accurate. Some of us are looking at ways to keep contributing to Flux. Expect a more official response soon. |
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Hi all This is a call for organisations and people who want to work on Flux in any way, to make themselves known here. I am posting this having been contacted by 100s of people, including a few really promising offers to help. I would really like to see such offers in the public domain. Initially here but I hope we can build up to the Flux website and CNCF as things get more serious. First off please note that people can help Flux in lots of ways! Coding, docs, community -- ask the maintainers what they need and how to help, there is really no shortage of stuff. You can also work on the Flux OSS ecosystem here - https://github.com/weaveworks - and elsewhere. Second - organisations can get involved too. End user firms are welcome. Vendors too! Including Flux in your own OSS and commercial offerings is a great way to make money. Eg from: support, consulting, or a larger product. Or you can hire people to work on and support Flux because that fits your company strategy in some way. Prior experience with K8s and Flux isn't a requirement, if you are willing to be a member of this community and roll up your sleeves. It is a welcoming place. THIS ISSUE is where to start. Organisations please say who you are, what you do, and how you'd like to be involved. Be as concrete as possible, respect that others may now know you, and please include a way for people to connect with you and find out more. --alexis |
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I would be prepared to contribute as time permits and given alignment with my new employer's priorities, they are a Flux user so have an interest in its success. |
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Hi All, As many of you know, we are continuing to support the CNCF Flux project at Control Plane, we have a growing team of the Core Maintainers who are focused on the continuation of the CNCF Flux Project. We do offer commercial options for companies that need support beyond what the project provides. As it would be in bad taste to solicit here in the open source, vendor neutral GitHub, I just want to reinforce what all have said, Flux has a great future, and will continue to innovate as Kubernetes evolves. Martin (control-plane.io) |
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Hello All, My name is Bob Boule the VP of Product for OpsMx I am excited to be posting that OpsMx will also be supporting The Flux Project as part of our OpenCD platform. We believe in the Open CD concept and allowing the customer to choose based on their specific deployment needs, and when it comes to GitOps deployment, the flux project is a pioneer. We are adding Flux to the list of supported delivery platforms for our Application Security Modules, Deployment Visibility and Intelligence Modules. We will also be offering commercial support to Flux Users and actively contributing to the Flux project. OpsMx has been a supporter and contributor to Open Source CD projects such as Spinnaker and Argo specifically. We are Looking forward to working with you all as we get started, please feel free to reach out if there are specific questions or if you would like to engage us on where we can jump in and start helping the community. By the way, if you are passionate about the Flux project and looking for your next opportunity we would love to talk to you about opportunities here with OpsMx … drop me a line. I will be publishing a blog soon that announces our move to support this robust and growing OSS Project and will post here once published. Bob (opsmx.io) |
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Hey All, I'm Randy Abernethy a Managing Partner at RX-M. We do and will continue to offer consulting and training for Flux (https://rx-m.com/cloudnative-training-courses/). --randy at rx-m.com |
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Hello everyone, @nearform stongly believes in open source and we will do our best to support flux going forward 💪 |
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Hi Everyone 👋 OSO offers Enterprise 24/7 support services for all things Kubernetes and GitOps including Flux. We have been a long term partner of Weaveworks and advised 50+ large scale companies on adopting Flux and its surrounding components. Our amazing @jjcallis is a regular in the community and spoke at GitOps days 2022 We will actively work with other partners in the ecosystem to support, advise and contribute to the Weaveworks projects where we can. Please drop me a message if you wish to discuss these in more detail. Sion (CTO @osodevops) |
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Hey everyone, we are still committed to Flux. Our support these days are sticking to the project, and developing a general purpose UI for it: gimlet-io/capacitor. As time permits we plan to pick up a couple of Flux issues as well. |
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Flux has had a major impact on the Kubernetes ecosystem, and has helped to bring GitOps into mainstream usage. As an all-K8s-all-the-time company, Fairwinds is eager to ensure that our end users have options to meet their business drivers. We're working to evaluate options to add value and continue to support the community. |
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thanks everyone! |
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Hi, my name is Lachlan Evenson from Azure. We have both products and customers using Flux. We intend to make contributions to Flux in support of the long-term health of the project alongside our other CNCF project investments. With KubeCon EU coming up in a couple of weeks, it might be a good opportunity for us to connect as a community in person (and virtually) to further discuss this topic. I'm lachie83 on CNCF slack. |
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Hi, my name is Ankit Jain, founder of Aviator - a suite of developer collaboration tools. We are a small team of ex-Googlers looking to support The Flux project and the Flux users. We will allocate some resources to help out existing users, while finding ways to provide enterprise support and consulting services. If you are currently using or exploring the use of Flux, please reach out. |
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I can continue to update/patch Flux on Operatorhub.io. |
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Paulo, that would be great 😃
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GitLab continues to support and build on Flux, and we are committed even more to playing an active role in the Flux community and we want to support FluxCD for enterprise customers. You can read the official announcement at https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2024/03/05/the-continued-support-of-fluxcd-at-gitlab/ Let me know if you have any questions or would like to discuss our decision further. You can reach me on the CNCF Slack as Viktor Nagy (Product Manager @ GitLab 🦊). |
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Much like Crowded House and the weather, everywhere I go I will take Flux with me. Looking forward to a very bright future for this year and beyond for Flux and Friends 🤗 |
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posted on linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7171213301555666945/ spread the word people x |
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OpsWorks Group, that includes Upplabs, OpsWorks, and RhodeCode is ready to support Flux customers and OSS development. |
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It's really lovely to see so many people and companies chiming in here in support of the Flux project and with the intent to make it successful going forward. I'm speaking for myself here but I'm convinced these shouts encourage all Flux core maintainers a lot after the uncertainty caused by Weavework's folding yearlier in the year. Since then the Flux community already diversified a lot and some of us already found new jobs where we can keep working on Flux at least for a couple of hours a week. What makes Flux and really any Open Source project successful are the people working each day on the software, the documentation, the community, the communication, helping our users, supporting them put Flux to work successfully. How can people keep working on Flux, though? That's only possible in two ways:
To all those who have chimed in here I want to say thank you and accompany that with a plea: If you want to see Flux thrive, please let your people work on it during their working hours. Make it very explicit how much time they will be able to spend contributing, make this time accountable and measurable so that they can very clearly say "today is my Flux day, no other meetings, please" or "every day between 2pm and 4pm I'm working on Flux" or anything like that. This is the way to make an Open Source project successful. This is the air that Flux breathes. If you've been given time to work on Flux from your employer, then it's time to find something exciting to work on. We maintain a roadmap that gives you a first impression what we have planned in the coming months. Next, you may want to join the regular dev meetings and listen to what the maintainers are working on and to chime in with your desire to contribute. Find details on these meetings here. Flux lives from people actively working on it! Cheers! |
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Hello everyone 👋 My name is Vuk Gojnic from Deutsche Telekom. We are heavy users of Flux for our Cloud Native Telco platform since almost 5 years: https://github.com/telekom/das-schiff. We are OSS end-user and we do not have customers consuming it directly. So we are contributing as end-user and have been working closely with Weaveworks in the past for enterprise support. As contingency planning we are analysing the alternatives, but overwhelming community committment to the project gives us the confidence and motivation to continue with Flux and support in the ways we can. Having analyzed support options we have concluded that we are not right type of organization for maintainers of such important OSS project to work for. However we stay committed to support as OSS end-user. -Vuk (Platform Lead Deutsche Telekom Technik) |
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Hi all, we have a room booked at Kubecon! We have space on Wednesday, 20 March from 11:00 - 12:30. The room will hold 50 people with seating at square/communal tables. There is standard AV in the room - screen, projector, 2 microphones. The purpose is to assemble as many folks as possible from this group who are also at Kubecon. The topic is Flux and Ecosystem, which means things like the Flux-iac project (tf-controller), GUIs, and more. People should be able to help each other more after seeing the potential areas of activity. (In other words the primary goal of the meet up is transparency and communication) |
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Greetings, |
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any update on weave-gitops ui ?, is it maintained in enterprise edition ? |
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Yes this is accurate. Some of us are looking at ways to keep contributing to Flux. Expect a more official response soon.
Update -> ControlPlane announcement https://control-plane.io/posts/controlplane-backs-the-cncf-flux-project-by-employing-maintainers/