NTFS, exfat and xfs modules are not compiled in x86-64 arch

[interkelstar]

Describe the issue you are experiencing

When launching a SambaNAS addon I can see in the logs

modprobe: module ntfs3 not found in modules.dep
[12:33:37] WARNING: ntfs3 module not available!
modprobe: module exfat not found in modules.dep
[12:33:37] WARNING: exfat module not available!
modprobe: module xfs not found in modules.dep
[12:33:37] WARNING: xfs module not available!

I am using Home Assistant OS in generic x86-64 device (smth like Intel NUC) and according to this comment from add-on repo
dianlight/hassio-addons#160 (comment)
As well as some others dianlight/hassio-addons#160 (comment)

The problem is that x86-64 version of Hassos doesn't have this modules compiled, but what surprises me that some other arch version has. So is there any particular reason for such a discrepancy? Will it be reasonable to compile these modules into the next release version of Hassos x86-64m even if it's not the main idea of the OS, but if aarch64 can have it, why not us?

What operating system image do you use?

generic-x86-64 (Generic UEFI capable x86-64 systems)

What version of Home Assistant Operating System is installed?

Home Assistant OS 10.5

Did you upgrade the Operating System.

Yes

Steps to reproduce the issue

1. Install SambaNAS addon from https://github.com/dianlight/hassio-addons
2. Check the logs

Anything in the Supervisor logs that might be useful for us?

No

Anything in the Host logs that might be useful for us?

No

System information

No response

Additional information

No response

[agners]

The problem is that x86-64 version of Hassos doesn't have this modules compiled, but what surprises me that some other arch version has. So is there any particular reason for such a discrepancy?

No particular reason. This is because we typically base board specific kernel default configurations of some existing configuration (e.g. from the Raspberry Pi team).

I have on my todo to align the kernel configurations a bit more. Essentially move all "generic" kernel modules to the operating system kernel configuration.

Will it be reasonable to compile these modules into the next release version of Hassos x86-64m even if it's not the main idea of the OS, but if aarch64 can have it, why not us?

I'll consider it. While I rather prefer to not support "wild" usage of HAOS, these modules are upstream and rather low maintenance from HAOS point of view.

[interkelstar]

I actually get the idea of not making HAOS more "wild" in order to keep it easier to support and in general.
But at the same time if it already has these modules in some of the archs we could yet consider it a maintenance liability, moreover it can actually be useful in some non-wild use cases I imagine (more options for config usb).

And yeah, there of course is the issue with the discrepancy across arch's configurations.

PS
From personal my point of view I'd be really grateful for this small upgrade in HAOS, since my "wild" usage barely exceeds basic one, but at the same time is too small for full-scale NAS OS, so in this case with a little (I hope) effort it could fall right onto the sweet spot =)

[codyrocco]

Personally i compile some of these modules - exfat, ntfs, ntfs3, even fuse - and load them manually, at homeassistant start. but this isn't always working with sambanas addon, depending by addons loading order.
having them compiled by default will bring the possibility to use the hardware in extended modes - actual minipcs could pack a lot of power, a lot more than HA requires

[tomw1964]

I was just about to move my XFS 4TB of storage from an old power hungry PC on to my shiny new HAOS box and have stumbled into this issue. +1 vote for adding XFS into the kernel from me :-)

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[adri535]

Personally i compile some of these modules - exfat, ntfs, ntfs3, even fuse - and load them manually, at homeassistant start. but this isn't always working with sambanas addon, depending by addons loading order. having them compiled by default will bring the possibility to use the hardware in extended modes - actual minipcs could pack a lot of power, a lot more than HA requires

could you explain a bit more on how to do that please?

[codyrocco]

first of all, reading this: https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/operating-system/getting-started/

then, modifying few config files, as follow:

• buildroot.external/configs/generic_x86_64_defconfig - added "BR2_PACKAGE_NTFS-3G=y" (useless, as require some other packages, it's a bit over my linux knowledge)
• buildroot.external/configs/ova_defconfig - added "BR2_PACKAGE_NTFS-3G=y" (same)
• buildroot.external/kernel/device-support.config - added "CONFIG_USB_NET_AQC111=m" (had a 5gbps usb-ethernet with Aquantia chipset, this is only as an example for other usb net modules)
• buildroot.external/kernel/hassos.config - added "CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m", "CONFIG_NTFS3_FS=m", "CONFIG_EXFAT_FS=m", "CONFIG_FUSE_FS=m", CONFIG_XFS_FS=m" (fs modules!)

then run "sudo scripts/enter.sh make generic_x86_64"

after compiling, search for "aqc111.ko", "ntfs.ko", etc - don't remember exactly the build path.

please nothe that these modules aren't present in modules.dep (as not entire haos will be replaced). not loadable with modprobe. i have a script running after homeassistant finish to load, with required commands - like "/sbin/insmod /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/modules/ntfs.ko". for usb net modules, "/sbin/modprobe usbnet" is required first.. any operation requiring for these modules to be already loaded before the running the script will fail.

for sure, all of these modifications coudl be made by HA developers directly in source, but is their decision not to do so.

[lamauny]

@agners could you consider again adding support to these filesystems ?
I'd really like using the SambaNAS addon with my NTFS disks too...

[lamauny]

added pull request #3516