update roadmap for 2024 #2310

HardenedSteel · 2024-06-24T01:47:05Z

Remove return address proposal which had no activity/development.
Mark Haveno as completed.
Remove ring size task which is duplicate of Seraphis.
Add "proposed task" status.
- Add ideas from Monero Research Lab

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HardenedSteel · 2024-06-24T02:24:41Z

^ updated the commit description

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LGTM

plowsof · 2024-06-24T08:44:04Z

Thanks! Some initial thoughts:

We could link the open mrl open research issue as the only proposed task Open Research Questions research-lab#94 (Rucknium is in MRL and we can let them maintain/update that list appropriately)
FCMP++ can be listed (linking to kayabanerves recent blog) as on-going. https://www.getmonero.org/2024/04/27/fcmps.html
eth-xmr swaps are "completed" but the last update in their matrix room was that not many people came forward to test. But this is my unqualified opinion. I think bch-xmr should be listed as also on-going. Last i seen they where working on a monero web wallet. Depends how we define completed : a swap on main/testnet or a working gui/cli that has peers to swap.with which we can link users to.
we also seen an MVP xmr-ltc testnet atomic swap from kayabanerve @ https://bounties.monero.social/posts/112/21-050m-xmr-to-ltc-atomic-swap but im not sure of any projects integrating/actively working on it (early days)
monerod rust implementation - Cuprate

nahuhh · 2024-06-24T10:51:23Z

we also seen an MVP xmr-ltc testnet atomic swap from kayabanerve @ https://bounties.monero.social/posts/112/21-050m-xmr-to-ltc-atomic-swap but im not sure of any projects integrating/actively working on it (early days)

xmr <> ltc has been working via basicswap for a long time. Currently uses adaptor sigs

will likely implement eth and bch swaps as well

HardenedSteel · 2024-06-25T23:25:15Z

tbh XMR-BCH doesn't look very completed to me.

and work on Seraphis not started should i change it to planned?

link the open mrl open research issue

done

FCMP++

done

Cuprate

done

HardenedSteel · 2024-06-27T19:56:23Z

@nahuhh since when? for adding to roadmap

nahuhh · 2024-07-05T11:04:37Z

@nahuhh since when? for adding to roadmap

Just saw this.
ltc<>xmr has been live on basicswap since dec 2022

august 2023 for bi-directional xmr atomic swaps.
if deciding which date to list, i think the august date is likely the better milestone.
Before this, the monero holder in atomic swaps had to act as the "taker"

plowsof · 2024-07-05T11:29:26Z

We can get some MRL input on removing tych. That open ccs was refunded to the GF a while ago

nahuhh

Triptych isn't coming. My understanding is that it has evolved into Lelantus Spark and Seraphis

_i18n/en.yml

resources/roadmap/index.md

README.md

_i18n/en.yml

plowsof · 2024-07-06T06:57:15Z

edited excerpts without full context from an informal chat in monero lounge regarding layer2's below: (which is being deleted in this PR)

<kayabanerve> [...] FCMP++s enable some PCNs as Seraphis (the protocol) would.
<kayabanerve> So we are indirectly working on those, even if I don't support the enabled instances I know of.

Rucknium mentions cores intentions of making layer 1 scale and "Since 7 years ago, a few papers on Monero payment channels have been published. No production code implementing them AFAIK"

My thoughts on layer2's are that this was probably added because it's a popular buzzword and people bring it up a lot

nahuhh · 2024-07-06T14:18:39Z

LWS subaddress support was completed as of Dec 2023

HardenedSteel · 2024-07-06T17:40:02Z

@nahuhh do you have link for it?

nahuhh · 2024-07-06T18:13:49Z

vtnerd/monero-lws@b4426b4

I spoke with vtnerd to confirm subaddress support

HardenedSteel · 2024-07-06T23:53:57Z

didn't add the commit link, not very useful for the roadmap

nahuhh · 2024-07-07T00:42:51Z

The ETH<>XMR atomic swaps should likely move to completed as well. I'm not sure the date. I think May 2023, but need to double check
(This is not to contradict @plowsof, but for consistency. If BCH is marked as completed, ETH should be as well.)

eth-xmr swaps are "completed" but the last update in their matrix room was that not many people came forward to test. But this is my unqualified opinion. I think bch-xmr should be listed as also on-going. Last i seen they where working on a monero web wallet. Depends how we define completed : a swap on main/testnet or a working gui/cli that has peers to swap.with which we can link users to.

I'm personally ok with listing both BCH and ETH as completed. I don't believe we waited for a GUI before considering BTC<>XMR as complete, but considered "complete" to imply that there was a functional tool.

plowsof · 2024-07-07T14:05:22Z

resources/roadmap/index.md

-                                    <li class="upcoming">{% t roadmap.returnaddr %}</li>
-                                    <li class="upcoming">{% t roadmap.layer2 %}</li>
+                                    <li class="ongoing">{% t roadmap.cuprate %}</li>
+                                    <li class="upcoming"><a href="https://github.com/seraphis-migration/strategy/wiki">{% t roadmap.seraphis-jamtis %}</a></li>


Suggested change

<li class="upcoming"><a href="https://github.com/seraphis-migration/strategy/wiki">{% t roadmap.seraphis-jamtis %}</a></li>

<li class="upcoming">{% t roadmap.seraphis-jamtis %}</li>

I believe we shouldn't link the FCMP for seraphis roadmap, instead we should link for FCMP roadmap itself

HardenedSteel · 2024-07-07T14:59:29Z

resources/roadmap/index.md

-                                    <li class="upcoming">{% t roadmap.returnaddr %}</li>
-                                    <li class="upcoming">{% t roadmap.layer2 %}</li>
+                                    <li class="ongoing">{% t roadmap.cuprate %}</li>
+                                    <li class="upcoming"><a href="https://github.com/seraphis-migration/strategy/wiki">{% t roadmap.seraphis-jamtis %}</a></li>


I believe we shouldn't link the FCMP for seraphis roadmap, instead we should link for FCMP roadmap itself

HardenedSteel · 2024-07-07T14:59:38Z

resources/roadmap/index.md

-                                    <li class="upcoming">{% t roadmap.layer2 %}</li>
+                                    <li class="ongoing">{% t roadmap.cuprate %}</li>
+                                    <li class="upcoming"><a href="https://github.com/seraphis-migration/strategy/wiki">{% t roadmap.seraphis-jamtis %}</a></li>
+                                    <li class="upcoming"><a href="https://www.getmonero.org/2024/04/27/fcmps.html">{% t roadmap.fcmp-plus %}</a></li>


Can you show me what you want to change/remove/keep? its not clear to me

move <a href="https://github.com/seraphis-migration/strategy/wiki"> line 243 from line 242

make these changes as @nahuhh seems to agree and we can review further. What will Seraphis codebase and jamtis link to then?

resources/roadmap/index.md

nahuhh · 2024-07-19T00:29:47Z

bumping this:
ETH<>XMR atomic swaps went from prerelease to release in may 2023

Tldr: BCH is marked as completed, so eth should be as well.

The ETH<>XMR atomic swaps should likely move to completed as well.

plowsof:

Depends how we define completed : a swap on main/testnet

this is how id define completed ^. liquidity or consumer grade tooling isn't essential to completion.

I'm personally ok with listing both BCH and ETH as completed. I don't believe we waited for [unstoppableswaps] before considering BTC<>XMR as complete, but considered "complete" to imply that the protocol was functional

At a glance, this is the last "low hanging" change. The rest LGTM

resources/roadmap/index.md

- Remove return address proposal which had no activity/development. - Mark/Add Haveno, XMR <-> BCH/ETH atomic swaps, viewtags as completed. - Remove ring size task which is duplicate of Seraphis. - Remove layer 2 and return address - Add "proposed task" status. - Add ideas from Monero Research Lab Co-authored-by: plowsof <77655812+plowsof@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: nahuhh <50635951+nahuhh@users.noreply.github.com>

HardenedSteel · 2024-07-19T19:03:31Z

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	<li class="upcoming"><a href="https://github.com/seraphis-migration/strategy/wiki">{% t roadmap.seraphis-jamtis %}</a></li>
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