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inconsistency in mapping forms of δεῖ & δέω #24

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e-ehrhardt opened this issue Feb 7, 2015 · 5 comments
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inconsistency in mapping forms of δεῖ & δέω #24

e-ehrhardt opened this issue Feb 7, 2015 · 5 comments

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@e-ehrhardt
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I'm not quite clear on the relationship between these verbs, whether the intention was to list δεῖ as just a form under δέω, or to have separate lemmas for δέω and δεῖ (with δεῖ containing the impersonal usages).

But either way, what morphGNT ends up with is this:

Forms of the lemma <δεῖ> are limited to:

  • ἔδει {'3IAI-S--': 16}

Forms of the lemma <δέω> include:

  • δεῖ {'3PAI-S--': 77}
  • and everything else.
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jtauber commented Mar 8, 2015

A decision would have to be made how to handle impersonal verbs in general and then potentially disambiguate the 3rd singular forms (if we decide to treat impersonal verbs differently from their base verb)

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I'm ok with a decision to not specially treat impersonal verbs. But in that case, ἔδει should have δέω as its lemma, not δεῖ, right? It just seems weird for form ἔδει to map to the lemma δεῖ, but the form δεῖ to map to the lemma δέω.

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jtauber commented Mar 9, 2015

Right, either way a change has to be made. But which change to make depends on a larger decision of how to model impersonal verbs. And if we keep δεῖ as a lemma we still need to decide which cases where the form is δεῖ are impersonal or not.

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jtauber commented Nov 24, 2015

@emg do you have any thoughts here?

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jtauber commented Jan 16, 2016

I think for now I'll change things to use δέω in all cases. It tips the balance towards a more formal analysis and we can always work out a way of indicating impersonal uses later (which is not a morphological question)

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