Nextcloud 13.0.0 RC 1: Support for Dropbox & Google Drive missing? #7810
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#7714 |
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@jospoortvliet : Perhaps we should mention this in the release notes that nobody gets a bad surprise. Or even put a warning in the updater app, so people can look for alternative apps and test them before running the upgrade. |
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@tflidd, @jospoortvliet: "mention this in the release notes" – perhaps nextcloud.com, too, should be updated, since it still contains the promise to "access data stored with a wide variety of popular cloud service providers such as Amazon, Google and Dropbox" (while, which is news for me in this moment, there suddenly are four "products" I can't really make out intuitively which of them is the one – are the ones? – I'm actually using, or, for that matter, whether it will stay free or not in the imminent future)? Now that Google Drive access is dropped instead of repaired, the next question for me is, are there proven workarounds, namely for Google Drive (cf. https://help.nextcloud.com/t/gdrive-user-rate-limit/21106/2)? While it seems I can perfectly well include the German Telekom "magentacloud" storage through WebDAV, there are no such straightforward, but still a few less obviously suitable options for Google Drive under Linux. |
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Indeed comes as a bad surprise to me - and actually makes me question the choice to shift from OwnCloud to NextCloud. One of the main features and promises was to have everything in one place - this is now lost with that decision. @xf: you write "you can use the extra app for dropbox" - which app, where can you find it, how does it integrate with NextCloud? |
https://github.com/icewind1991/files_external_dropbox @icewind1991 Is it already in the appstore? If not: could you publish it there? |
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The Dropbox app is still not in the Nextcloud App Store and apparently quite buggy. There is some ongoing work for a Google Drive app here: https://github.com/owncloud/files_external_gdrive The other project wants to move everything to external apps apparently: I don't think that it is a good idea to axe features without a good replacement after all. |
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Any update for this issue? |
Check the repos. No new bug reports, no code changes, no new pull requests. You could put some incentives on bountysource (https://www.bountysource.com/issues/53700579-nextcloud-13-0-0-rc-1-support-for-dropbox-google-drive-missing) for businesses the interest is perhaps limited and many private users want Nextcloud to get rid of GDrive and Dropbox. |
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@tflidd I agree with your opinion. What I want is to maybe remove this issue from the milestone so it doesn't push the release date further. |
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Support for GDrive and Dropbox will be removed from website: |
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As this is not server related I will close this (because @jospoortvliet is also aware of it). Regarding the gdrive app: this should be completely separate and not related to the server at all. (see dropbox app that is linked above) Thanks for your feedback on this. |
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So I was surprised that not only Dropbox but also GoogleDrive external storage support was gone now (updated to NC v13.0.1). The manual installation process for icewind´s Dropbox app is a pain... my new rule: if an app is not in the Nextcloud app store - it doesn´t exist for me. Sad to see there´s no follow up solution on both external storages. |
Did you try to request an official release in his repository? Then, they can perhaps specify what it still missing to offer this app officially (I suppose it is not reliable enough or some things are still missing). |
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I don't think this issue should be closed, as the gdrive functionality had been in https://github.com/nextcloud/server/tree/master/apps/files_external Unless there is no usable alternative this issue cannot be considered resolved. |
But there is nothing to be fixed directly here, you'd had to open a request to release a working version of the app. However, developers should not move everything which is not working into external apps in order to clean the bug tracker. @jospoortvliet Anything we can do here to clear up the situation. It was probably a bad surprise to some users that the external storage didn't work any more. Except from improving the communication in future releases, how can we clear up the situation here. Is this feature on any agenda? Can we estimate how much effort it is to make this work, if this is a minor effort, a few people can have a look into it and the community can put some incentives via bountysource?? |
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@tflidd thing is, it broke due to changes on the google side, so it has to be re-written. Nobody has volunteered to do that, Icewind has done a bit in his repo https://github.com/icewind1991/files_external_dropbox but not published it, I guess because it isn't good enough. Anyone who wants to fix this is, of course, very much free to do so - fix up the app by Icewind (and perhaps publish it) and/or write a new Google Drive app. We have to clear up the app situation more anyhow, it's on our agenda for the next hackweek. Hey, anybody can join and perhaps help clean up! |
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IMO the upgrade process must check if all used features -especially core features - available in the former version are also available in the new version and ask the user explicitly if the upgrade should performed nevertheless. |
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@ferdiga that is a new feature in Nextcloud 14 - you can already get it in 13 by installing this app: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/caniupdate |
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great ! |
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Cyberduck can connect with Google Drive locally with some Google App. Could this be implemented? I'm not sure where to post this... |
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@jospoortvliet, if this has been broken due to google side change, why only update from 13.0.0 to > 13.0.1 break it ? |
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Hey buddy, I made a workaround to bring the google drive support back! Simply mount the google drive with FUSE using google-drive-ocamlfuse. And then add the mounted google drive in nextcloud as a "local" external storage. Clear enough, isn't it? Steps:
It works pretty well for me now. The downloading and uploading speed is almost my laptop's full bandwidth. (As the connection from my VPS to Google's server is way faster). It feels as good as the original support for google drive. Note this solution comes absolutely without any warranty. But most likely things will be fine: the google drive fuse is pretty stable, and google drive always provides a backup. But dear developers, I still want the native google drive support back! Back! Back! Thx! |
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Someone built a solution here: https://github.com/NastuzziSamy/files_external_gdrive/ |
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@NastuzziSamy uploaded it to the app store, btw: |
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Can’t download the app from the NextCloud App Store, since HIS NextCloud is now in maintenance mode!! Do apps from other developers than NextCloud point to their own source? That’s not really reliable for an App Store... Not to mention unknown traffic exposure of my server to foreign servers. Nice of you 👎🏼 |
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We don't host the data ourselves, no. Most app developers just point to github for downloads, that is probably the best solution - that is where the code is, too. I would personally not like this solution, taking data from my server, but I believe I have no right to tell people what to do unless I pay them... |
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Why not? You could alter the UI of the App Store to only allow certain
domains, like GitHub or BitBucket. Or check if the set URL is not a self
hosted Nextcloud instance. Or only allow archive files and start hosting
it.
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We don't host the data ourselves, no. Most app developers just point to
github for downloads, that is probably the best solution - that is where
the code is, too. I would personally not like this solution, taking data
from my server, but I believe I have no right to tell people what to do
unless I pay them...
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Why would we limit app developers in where they host? Many would argue they don't want to be forced to put their code at some third party site and they trust their own server... Which is, of course, not crazy. In the end, it is the developers' choice where they host their files, and the users' choice to accept that or not. |
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For those to whom it may help... I implemented the idea presented by @jeffli678 with a few tweaks I didn't think were too obvious. I have a headless Ubuntu 16.04 server on Amazon Lightsail.
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an other one (not tested solution as long as nextcloud-14 has problem after login...) should be also to use rclone (on linux / unix os) to mount google-drive on a directory then access it from nextcloud. |
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any new ideas for dropbox? Whats with that one? https://github.com/owncloud/files_external_dropbox ? |
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This all looks dead, and it is really annoying. A won't fix on two of the biggest cloud storage providers, seriously? I'm taking a look at the other package now, but this is embarassing... EDIT The "Official" Dropbox Extension is completely broken beyond any repairability within a reasonable ammount of time. So, this is a definitive "no" forever? Nextcloud will offer no support for Dropbox? |
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@JustusW please understand that 'Nextcloud' is a community of people who work on what they want or get paid to work on. Sadly, the needs of large enterprises (who pay the bill for that last group) diverge a lot from home users. We try to regularly work on things that help home users of course, but there is much more we'd like to do that what we can do. Help is absolutely welcome, of course! I'm afraid that this task will depend on a volunteer stepping up. |
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I'm currently on External storage support 1.9.0 and I noticed same issue with Dropbox. I don't plan to use it, but I'd like to get rid of there entries. Is there any clear way how to remove these old Dropbox entries including all stuff connected to it? Thank you (and sorry for hijacking this issue) |
Steps to reproduce
Trying the console command "occ files_external:backends" shows me that the authentication OAuth2 auth method is there, but the storage backend for "dropbox" and "googledrive" is no longer shown.
Under Nextcloud --> Settings --> "External Storages", the mount points are shown red, says "Unknown: dropbox" and "Unknown: googledrive".
If I want to add a mount point, it gives me 7 options (S3, SFTP, Webdav, Openstack-Objectstorage, etc.) - but googledrive and dropbox are missing.
Thanks!
Server configuration
Operating system: Ubuntu 14
Web server: Apache stock
Database: MySQL stock
PHP version: 7.1.3, tried with 5.0.36, too
Nextcloud version: 13.0.0 RC1
Updated from an older Nextcloud/ownCloud or fresh install: update
Where did you install Nextcloud from: update through interface, initial install through download from official site & manual install
List of activated apps:
App list
Nextcloud configuration:
Config report
Are you using external storage, if yes which one: SFTP, Dropbox, GoogleDrive
Are you using encryption: no
Are you using an external user-backend, if yes which one: no
Client configuration
Browser: Chrome / Firefox
Operating system: Win10
Nextcloud log (data/nextcloud.log)
Nextcloud log
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