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Specify behavior of async resource detection #952
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From spec meeting: Since resources are not API surface and are SDK only, this is not a GA blocker. Because this is a common scenario that everyone will hit eventually, it is important that we specify something eventually. The current SDK does not do resource auto-detection, and depends on "extension packages," which allows us to offload these concerns from the SDK for the moment. |
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](#208), [spec#3382](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3382), [spec#3710](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#605), [spec#559](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry/oteps#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry/oteps#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](open-telemetry#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](open-telemetry/oteps#208), [spec#3382](open-telemetry#3382), [spec#3710](open-telemetry#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](open-telemetry#605), [spec#559](open-telemetry#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](open-telemetry#208), [spec#3382](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3382), [spec#3710](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#605), [spec#559](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](open-telemetry#208), [spec#3382](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3382), [spec#3710](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#605), [spec#559](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](open-telemetry#208), [spec#3382](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3382), [spec#3710](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#605), [spec#559](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry/oteps#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry/oteps#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](open-telemetry#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](open-telemetry/oteps#208), [spec#3382](open-telemetry#3382), [spec#3710](open-telemetry#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](open-telemetry#605), [spec#559](open-telemetry#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](open-telemetry#208), [spec#3382](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3382), [spec#3710](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#605), [spec#559](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](open-telemetry#208), [spec#3382](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3382), [spec#3710](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#605), [spec#559](open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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This is a proposal to address Resource and Entity data model interactions, including a path forward to address immediate friction and issues in the current resource specification. The proposal includes all links and context needed to justify it, but duplicating a snapshot here: ## Motivation This proposal attempts to focus on the following problems within OpenTelemetry to unblock multiple working groups: - Allowing mutating attributes to participate in Resource ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry/oteps#208)). - Allow Resource to handle entities whose lifetimes don't match the SDK's lifetime ([OTEP 208](open-telemetry/oteps#208)). - Provide support for async resource lookup ([spec#952](#952)). - Fix current Resource merge rules in the specification, which most implementations violate ([oteps#208](open-telemetry/oteps#208), [spec#3382](#3382), [spec#3710](#3710)). - Allow semantic convention resource modeling to progress ([spec#605](#605), [spec#559](#559), etc). --------- Co-authored-by: Tigran Najaryan <4194920+tigrannajaryan@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jack-berg <34418638+jack-berg@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Arve Knudsen <arve.knudsen@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: David Ashpole <dashpole@google.com>
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What are you trying to achieve?
tl;dr: what happens if spans are created while resources are still being detected?
In some environments such as GCP, some resource attributes are detected by calling a remote endpoint. In JS at least, it is impossible to make blocking IO calls. This means the user app either has to wait for the resource detection to complete before starting the SDK, or start the SDK and potentially start creating spans before the resource detection is complete. I understand in other languages like Java it is possible to block, but you can't block all threads and some spans might be created in another thread while the resources are still being detected.
I asked this question in the maintainers gitter channel and according to @jkwatson the current behavior in Java is to drop these spans. This may be an issue in latency sensitive contexts like lambda, where the app quickly boots and creates some spans. In many cases, those spans might be the only spans. According to @tsloughter, the erlang currently does not allow for remote/async/delayed resources.
I don't know if this directly affects the trace GA, but I feel this is an important thing to get nailed down.
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