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Presets : access=yes instead of access=public for toilets #2576

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@gileri gileri commented Apr 5, 2015

Hello,

In general on OSM access=yes is used to mean that an amenity/feature is accessible by everyone.

Toilets seems to be the only exception where access=public is used with no apparent reason. This PR replace access=public by access=yes for toilets.

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I assume you made this change to the wiki as well. Have you gotten consensus for making this change from the wider OpenStreetMap community, e.g. by posting on the tagging mailing list?

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gileri commented Apr 5, 2015

@jfirebaugh You're right I made the wiki edit, and tagging needs consensus. In this instance the consensus was made long ago.

edit : I may add that using access=public instead of access=yes break the aforementioned consensus.

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As the person who wrote "public" on the toilet page: this is a reasonable change for the entry level editor.

Some advanced mappers use 'public' where there is a legal right to use a facility, such as a public park, and "yes" where no such requirement exists such as at a church or graveyard. That's a lot to explain in iD however.

Note that "customers" is a good tag (used 90,000 times) despite controversy in it's creation.
And "permissive" is widely used and needed.

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See also https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-May/thread.html#17501

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Is there any difference between access=public and access=yes?

I am not aware of any, seems synonymous to me in the access context, suggest to normalize to yes

i concur.

@bhousel bhousel closed this in d45613b Feb 17, 2016
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bhousel commented Feb 17, 2016

Merged as d45613b

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gileri commented Feb 17, 2016

Thank you !

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