Life Itself
Open database of intentional communities (and coliving projects?) for research purposes #144
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Documenting some progress here regarding the issue #144:
I am documenting some visualisations and research around it on it on my local branch, trying to do survivability analysis for communities to estimate which types of communities would survive longer and based on which criteria. plan is to merge later with the main branch of life-itself research;
Any suggestions are welcome. |
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A couple of recent references I came across here on the topic....
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@baouroux very useful. BTW would you like to introduce yourself in the introductions channel https://github.com/life-itself/community/discussions/categories/introductions - just create a new discussion and say hi and share a bit about you (if you want!) |
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@Liyubov any updates here? Did we get db from ic.org? |
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@Liyubov any update on access to ic.org database? |
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UPDATE: i believe update ~1y ago from @Liyubov was that IC had written back saying they couldn't share openly (even in anonymised form) but perhaps for research purposes they could (and i think at that point the thread dropped) |
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Hey @rufuspollock @Liyubov & @baouroux
Will keep you posted on this! |
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@BoazBF this is great! 🎉 I think we could set up a open planning call in the next few weeks to plan some next steps and how people can contribute in various ways. |
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Just to let you know, I'm subscribed to this issue and ready to contribute experiences from the @TransforMap effort, once they become useful. |
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@almereyda that's really appreciated! Thank-you. |
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Flagging that we now have a semi-duplicate new discussion here https://github.com/orgs/life-itself/discussions/391 |
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Yes good point. Shall we merge them? I feel like this speaks more to one job stories for having a database which is to carry out research. Definitely worth keeping in mind as we scrap which parameters we want to research, such as religious affiliations. |
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Hello there! I somehow got in the depths of my emails and found this thread, which picked my interest :). I downloaded the data from https://github.com/life-itself/intentional-communities and looked at it quickly. Little digest below 👇
The database stops in 1878, and documents communities until "present". Looking at the cumulative number, we see a burst of activity in the 1850s.
Now looking at the "duration active" variable (difference of end and start date), we see a lot of very long-term communities were founded in late 1790s (blue dots above). Wondering about why it is so, I split the data by type, i.e.
The very long-standing communities are overwhelmingly religious, most particuarly the Shakers. This is true both at the average level (barplot), as well as the individual level (boxplot). And to finish, with the question of "90% of communities failing", obviously the data collection has a bias of collecting points we remember, therefore those who didn't fail... But just as an exercise, in the database, 72% of communities are less than one generation (20 years). Maybe the rule could be more of a revisited 80-20, i.e. 80% of communities lasts less than 20 years 😊 . |
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Fascinating Marc....
I might have posted this before, but on a similar theme, I remember this
talk (audio link below) by Rosabeth Moss Kanter speaking of her research
into the longevity of intentional communities, and the fact that it was
very rarely financial issues that lead to their demise, but more the
ideals, purpose and identity that fragmented (something the more explicit
faith/spiritual tradition communities I guess manage to sustain):
- https://archive.org/details/RosabethKanterG8
This comes out of a series of stunning talks as part of the Lindisfarne
community conferences, going way back to the 70s, but just as enlightening
as ever I feel... With William Irwin Thompson's brilliant cultural
anthropology presentations. The whole archive of audios from their
conferences can be found here!
https://centerforneweconomics.org/envision/legacy/lindisfarne-tapes/
…On Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 16:26 Marc Santolini ***@***.***> wrote:
Hello there!
I somehow got in the depths of my emails and found this thread, which
picked my interest :).
I downloaded the data from
https://github.com/life-itself/intentional-communities and looked at it
quickly. Little digest below 👇
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The database stops in 1878, and documents communities until "present".
Looking at the cumulative number, we see a burst of activity in the 1850s.
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<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/956597/245505904-e4852ac3-df6a-451d-b3c0-d46887de4f09.png>
Now looking at the "duration active" variable (difference of end and start
date), we see a lot of very long-term communities were founded in late
1790s (blue dots above). Wondering about why it is so, I split the data by
type, i.e.
R=Religious
O=Owenites
S= Socialists
M=Miscellaneous
SH=Shakers
F=Fourierists
AN=Anarchists
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<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/956597/245506574-308a5270-914f-47a8-9257-39aadd598789.png>
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The very *long-standing communities are overwhelmingly religious, most
particuarly the Shakers <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers>*.
And to finish, with the question of "90% of communities failing",
obviously the data collection has a bias of collecting points we remember,
therefore those who didn't fail... But just as an exercise, in the
database, *72% of communities are less than one generation (20 years)*.
Maybe the rule could be more of a revisited 80-20, i.e. 80% of communities
lasts less than 20 years 😊 .
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Thanks as always for the enlightening contextualisation! 🙏 |
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Just an addition to the list of communities....I have a fellow portrait filmmaker in Canada who was commissioned to film the portrait of the founder of this community:
Here is the film: Re-becoming Villagers: https://vimeo.com/493144192?share=copy Very inspiring to have the personal stories.... |
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idea: create an open database of intentional communities (and associated research project) especially one with historical data.
We're very interested in co-living and intentional communities -- and what makes them work or not work -- so a database of them would be very useful. especially one focused on historical data.
See WIP here https://github.com/life-itself/intentional-communities
Brainstorm
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