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Renaming jade -> pug #2184
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sorry to hear that, but pug sounds perfect to me 👍 |
Great to finally be able to talk about this!
I think that the new name might actually give us a bit of PR that we can use to talk about the new modularity and get people to write plugins (or pug-ins ;)).
I'm also +1 on restricting publishing rights.
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Are they have complaints against jadejs or jadejs-lang? Our world needs namespacing in trademarks :) This is just in software, there are a lot of other "jades": If trademark <= 5 chars until 2050 year, after 2050 year <= 6 chars, it should be public, non-propietary. |
I can gladly help with website and logo, at least there will be options to pick from. Interested? |
@ForbesLindesay are you at all interested in bringing |
Absolutely, I've been meaning to suggest doing that for a while. Hopefully I've given you the permission you need to be able to transfer ownership of the project to the pugjs org. |
@sidorares Maybe changing the name of https://github.com/sidorares/browserify-jade also? Eg. |
wow, didn't expect that. @tellnes - yes, probably makes sense. |
I'm going to rename https://github.com/benedfit/stylperjade to |
@ForbesLindesay with regards to versioning, is there any benefit to resetting all the new packages to 1.0.0 rather than maintaining, or incrementing, their existing version numbers? |
No, it probably makes sense to keep with their existing version numbers. |
I shall start converting all the repo and package names to pug if there are no objections? |
👍 I've published an initial version of every module already so I need to add you as an owner on all the packages. Also let's rename jade-load -> pug-loader for consistency with lever, parser etc. |
@ForbesLindesay I've given |
@benedfit should be fixed now :) |
👍 ta. I'm all done now |
Wow sorry to hear about all this! What about something like Jayde or Jaide? |
@dlewand691 thanks for the suggestion but I think that "pug" is now the new name of the project. |
Sounds good. One more in case you change your mind... a simple letter swap: Jaed. |
For russian ears “pug” sounds very very bad guys. I'm sad to see all these already merged PRs. |
Was there anything filed/sent by the company in question regarding their trademark? Or was this preventative? |
@dlewand691 Jaed looks awesome ;) It's easier to type than Jade too. Oh wells I guess it's going to be pug |
How bad? In which way? Даниил Пронин notifications@github.com于2016年1月4日 周一02:05写道:
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@xtrinity @dlewand691 I am appreciate Jaed too 👍 @zhuangya sounds like “poo” 💩 |
Could you simply pronounce it as мопс (which google tells me is the russian word for Pug)? |
@ForbesLindesay hmm sounds better. I'll try. “Мопс” is how I think about this language. |
I'm locking this because I have zero interest in debating names. I thought I made that pretty clear in the original issue. |
Updated agreement I'm now being asked to sign for "Jade Software Corporation Limited", after some changes were requested. I have not yet signed anything:
This is looking better, but the sentence:
Still seems like it's requesting I do something outside of my control. |
Depending on interpretation, this could be very limiting as well. E.g.: does discussing the above agreement, after signing, count as commenting on the process of the discontinuation of the name JADE? On a broader note: why do you feel you have to sign the above? You've already started the process of renaming JADE in good faith. They could extend you the same courtesy. If they want to legally bind you to do so then they can, but they'd have to go to court, and the outcome would still be the same. You have documented proof of already taking best-effort action to change the name on as short a basis as possible. I realize this is perhaps not the forum for further discussion on this, and it's a personal choice that you are more than free to make. Just hoping you can avoid tying yourself to any vague legal agreement, if at all possible. |
Rename has been done. |
Unfortunately, these people have a trademark for the word "jade" referring to software, so we've been forced to change our name. Fortunately, @davidglivar has kindly donated the name "pug" to us. I've claimed
pug
andpugjs
everywhere I could think of so hopefully we shouldn't have any problems getting the name.Action items
Versioning & Deprecation
There will be no 2.0.0 release of jade, instead it will be released as pug 2.0.0. In the mean time, pug 0.10.x will be used for experimental releases of pug 2.0.0 until it is stabilised.
Existing versions of jade will be left working for at least 6 months. There may be a
pug@1.0.0
release aimed at being as compatible as possible withjade@1.x.y
.The new website will be at www.pugjs.org (which I have registered). Once that website is built, http://jade-lang.com/ will be updated to redirect to www.pugjs.org
FAQ
Why pug?
It's short, memorable and widely available. Not only that, but pugs are cute!
Do we really have to change the name?
Yes. The stress of pursuing this through the courts would be too high. I would much rather focus my efforts on writing great software, and supporting the people who use pug.
Couldn't we just change the name to ?
Maybe, but I like pug, and it's definitely available. If your suggestion was along the theme of "make a one letter change to jade", I think it's preferable in the long run to make a clean break and start with a nice fresh brand.
more questions (and answers) will be added as they are asked
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