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* help: Add link to Discourse instance

Add note that IRC channel may not have history, and thus may not be easily searchable for newcomers.
(I could not easily find a discussion archive)

* Address Mariatta's comments
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usage then please check the rest of this guide first as it should answer your
question.

Discourse
---------

Python has a hosted `Discourse`_ instance. Be sure to visit the related Core
categories, such as
`Core Development <https://discuss.python.org/c/core-dev/23>`_ and
`Core Workflow <https://discuss.python.org/c/core-workflow/8>`_.

.. _Discourse: https://discuss.python.org/

Mailing Lists
-------------

Further options for seeking assistance include the `python-ideas`_ and
`python-dev`_ mailing lists. Python-ideas contains discussion of speculative
Python language ideas for possible inclusion into the language. If an idea
gains traction it can then be discussed and honed to the point of becoming a
solid proposal and presented on python-dev. Python-dev contains discussion
of current Python design issues, release mechanics, and maintenance of
existing releases. These mailing lists are for questions involving the
development *of* Python, **not** for development *with* Python.

.. _python-ideas: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas
.. _python-dev: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Ask #python-dev
---------------

If you are comfortable with IRC you can try asking on ``#python-dev`` (on
the `freenode`_ network). Typically there are a number of experienced
developers, ranging from triagers to core developers, who can answer
questions about developing for Python. Just remember that ``#python-dev``
is for questions involving the development *of* Python whereas ``#python``
is for questions concerning development *with* Python.
questions about developing for Python. As with the mailing lists,
``#python-dev`` is for questions involving the development *of* Python
whereas ``#python`` is for questions concerning development *with* Python.

.. _freenode: https://freenode.net/
.. note::

You may not be able to access the history of this channel, so it cannot
be used as a "knowledge base" of sorts.

.. _freenode: https://freenode.net/

Zulip
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hour stream. It is preferred that you ask questions here first or schedule
an office hour, before posting to python-dev mailing list or filing bugs.

.. warning::

This is no longer actively monitored by core devs. Consider asking your questions
on Discourse or on the `python-dev`_ mailing list.

.. _Zulip: https://python.zulipchat.com


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.. _Mariatta's twitter: https://twitter.com/mariatta


Mailing Lists
-------------

Further options for seeking assistance include the `python-ideas`_ and
`python-dev`_ mailing lists. Python-ideas contains discussion of speculative
Python language ideas for possible inclusion into the language. If an idea
gains traction it can then be discussed and honed to the point of becoming a
solid proposal and presented on python-dev. Python-dev contains discussion
of current Python design issues, release mechanics, and maintenance of
existing releases. As with ``#python-dev``, these mailing lists are for
questions involving the development *of* Python, **not** for development
*with* Python.

.. _python-ideas: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas
.. _python-dev: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev


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