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Although I agree that this is where we want to end up, I think that this RFC is focusing too much on the
impl Trait for [FunctionType]
use-case.Maybe it would make sense to restrict the RFC to just figuring out the syntax for
fn
items? Or make a new RFC for just the syntax? I would be willing to drive that effort, if you think so?Implementing traits for functions have many other nuances, I'll just name a few that I don't think have been explored enough in this RFC:
IntoIterator
for my function? What if 10 years down the road the language wants to start implementingIntoIterator
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I tried to find some other examples of when you'd want to talk about the function item type instead of just using the function pointer, and I honestly couldn't really find a compelling example, which is supposedly why it doesn't exist yet.
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@madsmtm good point with the fn thing! I honestly wonder how that would integrate with generator functions...
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Note to self: The standard library uses the macro
impl_fn_for_zst!
to support exactly the use-case of naming a function item, because they store it in generic helper structs, and would like that storage to be zero-cost.There was a problem hiding this comment.
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I think it would be useful to consider the (imaginary) desugaring of function items into structs. Take for example the following generic function:
This can roughly be implemented with:
This leads me to believe that the syntax for specifying a function item should be much simpler, just
foo<T>
, no precedingfn
. For associated functions,MyType<T>::my_function<U>
should suffice.Note that this doesn't solve
impl Trait
, but as said, you already can't use that instruct
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wow... that is a lot of thinking going in there... I suppose that you are going to take over the whole scenario with the more general syntax approach?
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I think it might make sense to explain this relating to the current reference docs on function items, and how we'd update that given that we now have syntax for talking about the function type.
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Do we use turbofish syntax if
MyStruct
takes a generic parameter? e.g.Do we write
fn MyStruct<T>::new
orfn MyStruct::<T>::new
? If we choose the latter, would it cause any inconsistency from thefn send<T>
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I'll look into that. I also see another problem here: Imagine this
is it
impl<T> fn MyStruct[::]<T>::new
or is it
impl<T> fn MyStruct::new[::]<T>
?
what do you think? is there a prefered situation for this in rust or should we maybe allow both? @SOF3
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definitely the former.
MyStruct::new<T>
doesn't make sense because the type parameter is on MyStruct not the associated function. This would go wrong ifnew
itself also accepts type parameters.As for whether to use turbofish, I guess this depends on how the compiler parses this expression. I'm not a parser expert, so this part needs some input from the compiler team.
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@SOF3 So I made some tests and would say that it's more "rusty" when we do
MyStruct::<T>::new
instead ofMyStruct<T>::new
(https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2021&gist=316deb57a2d9552d8284a35fb56db2a0)What do you think?
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Yep, but since we are in type context not expression context here, turbofish is probably unnecessary. The turbofish syntax is required for expressions only because of ambiguity with the less-than operator (
<
), but we don't have such ambiguity if we specify thatfn
is always followed by a path instead of an expression.Of course, you might also want an expression there if it is a generic
typeof
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Any potential parsing ambiguity if we are taking a fn pointer on an associated function of a fn pointer? e.g.
Definitely a very bad syntax that must be disallowed, but better specify it in the reference-level explanation.
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Yeah this should definitly be forbidden. If we do the
{}
syntax this would befn {fn {foo}::bar}
. Otherwise I'm currently not sure if we would wantfn (fn foo)::bar
orfn <fn foo>::bar
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Are there any existing workarounds for this, e.g. through macros in specific scenarios etc?
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I don't think so. I couldn't imagine how you could get behind a specific type of a function at all.
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Not familiar with compiler parsing internals, but could also consider
fn {path}
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isn't that what i already do? or do you mean with explicit
{}
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yes
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Consider including consistency of display names as well. Currently:
std::any::type_name_of_val(&drop::<()>)
evaluates to"core::mem::drop<()>"
Choices of display include "fn item" (as opposed to "fn pointer" if it is cast to
fn(())
first), the function path and a mix of function pointer +{path}
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this is a fair point, but i feel like that this will just make more boilerplate. we already specified the function and i dont want to make my impl even longer... on the other side: WAIT A MINUTE! this could solve our "what to do with
impl Trait
type param" problem...So that we write
Ok that would be really cool.
So would you agree that boilerplate is okay here? @SOF3
"Problem" is that this RFC tends to turn into a more generic
type_of
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So i am currently rewriting and for now I will do this partially but use
fn_name
rather than{fn_name}
because i think this could collide when we want to do something like thisI don't know if something like this is planned or if this is already marked as "no" (if so please say it to me so ill change it in the RFC), but if it isn't, then the compiler may not be able to differentiate between
fn() {name} {block}
andfn() {block}
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not a fan of this. two type expressions joined together without a delimiter is most likely not acceptable to the compiler team, considering we can't do the same with decl macro inputs either.
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what about just
fn {fn_name}
? orfn fn_name(Args)->Return
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I don't think that's a problem.
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So what about moving the name front?
fn my_func
andfn my_func(prms) -> ret
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actually my point was that we should make them consistent, but we could change the diagnostic display instead of the syntax
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So is the syntax that I currently have in the RFC ok?
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I added a
ToDo's
section at the end where i proposed a syntax change but I'm not sure if it is that well with the generic in the for "structure"? 😅