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ABI compatibility: remove section on target features #132136
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rustbot has assigned @Mark-Simulacrum. Use |
I guess this is now waiting on #132173 due to the revert? I'm wondering if we should keep this section, while noting that the requirements are typically guaranteed by the compiler. It's confusing to me to say this is just guaranteed by the compiler -- maybe I'm missing something, but we probably can't do that across e.g. language boundary / translation unit, where I manually write (or use bindgen, etc.) extern { ... } blocks to reference foreign functions? Do we have some other docs that specify how "closely" I need to match that foreign function's definition? Seems like these would be the docs I need to read... |
At least if this is the fix, it seems like while Rust may require you to enable the feature, it's not clear from that that GCC or Clang have similar enforcement, so I can still run into trouble? |
This section of the docs is only about Rust-to-Rust calls. Calls to other languages would need to list which Rust types are compatible with which C types.
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But yeah this is blocked on re-landing the reverted PR.
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Ah, right. I remember that discussion when we added this :) In that case, r=me once dependency lands. I do think it would be good to add an explicit note about FFI somewhere -- the page doesn't seem to mention that at all today in the actual text, only by omission -- and omission feels somewhat unfortunate :) |
Well it talks about which Rust types are compatible with which Rust types. So it seems fairly clear that this cannot talk about C to/from Rust calls?
I don't know what is the right place to document FFI guarantees, but certainly not the stdlib. Probably the reference should have an FFI section.
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I'm not sure I agree. Without an explicit note, and with types like If we want to avoid such an assumption, I think adding "These guarantees/requirements only apply to Rust <> Rust calls. The requirements for cross language calls are not currently documented here." could help. In any case, I think that's a separate topic -- let me file a PR proposing such language and we can discuss there. |
…g, r=RalfJung Make clearer that guarantees in ABI compatibility are for Rust only cc rust-lang#132136 (comment) -- it looks like we already had a note that I missed in my initial look here, but this goes further to emphasize the guarantees, including uplifting it to the top of the general documentation. r? `@RalfJung`
…g, r=RalfJung Make clearer that guarantees in ABI compatibility are for Rust only cc rust-lang#132136 (comment) -- it looks like we already had a note that I missed in my initial look here, but this goes further to emphasize the guarantees, including uplifting it to the top of the general documentation. r? `@RalfJung`
…Jung Make clearer that guarantees in ABI compatibility are for Rust only cc rust-lang/rust#132136 (comment) -- it looks like we already had a note that I missed in my initial look here, but this goes further to emphasize the guarantees, including uplifting it to the top of the general documentation. r? `@RalfJung`
@Mark-Simulacrum so modulo waiting for #132173, is this good to go? |
Yeah, r=me still stands when ready. |
Okay, great. :) @bors r=Mark-Simulacrum |
@bors rollup |
…iaskrgr Rollup of 2 pull requests Successful merges: - rust-lang#132136 (ABI compatibility: remove section on target features) - rust-lang#132816 (Dont suggest `use<impl Trait>` when we have an edition-2024-related borrowck issue) r? `@ghost` `@rustbot` modify labels: rollup
Rollup merge of rust-lang#132136 - RalfJung:target-feature-abi-compat, r=Mark-Simulacrum ABI compatibility: remove section on target features Once rust-lang#127731 lands, we will properly diagnose ABI issues caused by target feature mismatch (at least on tier 1 targets). So I'd say we can remove the corresponding part of the docs here -- this is now something the compiler can take care of, so programmers don't need to be concerned. For now this is just a lint, but that's just a transition period, like in prior cases where we fix I-unsound bugs by adding a new check that goes through the "future incompatibility" stages. We have decided that it's actually a bug that we have ABI risks around target features, and we shouldn't document that bug as-if it was intended behavior. Cc `@rust-lang/opsem` `@chorman0773` `@veluca93`
…, r=Mark-Simulacrum ABI compatibility: remove section on target features Once rust-lang#127731 lands, we will properly diagnose ABI issues caused by target feature mismatch (at least on tier 1 targets). So I'd say we can remove the corresponding part of the docs here -- this is now something the compiler can take care of, so programmers don't need to be concerned. For now this is just a lint, but that's just a transition period, like in prior cases where we fix I-unsound bugs by adding a new check that goes through the "future incompatibility" stages. We have decided that it's actually a bug that we have ABI risks around target features, and we shouldn't document that bug as-if it was intended behavior. Cc `@rust-lang/opsem` `@chorman0773` `@veluca93`
…iaskrgr Rollup of 2 pull requests Successful merges: - rust-lang#132136 (ABI compatibility: remove section on target features) - rust-lang#132816 (Dont suggest `use<impl Trait>` when we have an edition-2024-related borrowck issue) r? `@ghost` `@rustbot` modify labels: rollup
Once #127731 lands, we will properly diagnose ABI issues caused by target feature mismatch (at least on tier 1 targets). So I'd say we can remove the corresponding part of the docs here -- this is now something the compiler can take care of, so programmers don't need to be concerned. For now this is just a lint, but that's just a transition period, like in prior cases where we fix I-unsound bugs by adding a new check that goes through the "future incompatibility" stages. We have decided that it's actually a bug that we have ABI risks around target features, and we shouldn't document that bug as-if it was intended behavior.
Cc @rust-lang/opsem @chorman0773 @veluca93