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Remove server requirement to advertise container type in HTTP header #190
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I'm not sure how I feel about this, so will refrain from reviewing at the moment. |
It is not required for interop, however I've raised alongside other basic resources types that a server may want to advertise: #191 |
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Seems reasonable. 👍
I don't like this at all. |
The header is redundant. The other criteria (eg containment through slashes) is stronger; MUST for interop, otherwise everything falls apart. As said, the header can be useful but should be acknowledged as a separate category of concerns (issue 191). The spec doesn't forbid their use - so, optional, or at least can be considered as a good practice or convention to advertise resource types uniformly (where applicable). |
My bigger issue here is: why would we intentionally drop LDP compliance? It's easier to say "Solid is LDP compliant" than "Solid follows LDP but…". At the moment we're dropping one part of LDP compatibility, we're not LDP compatible, and therefore there would not be many reasons left to try for partial compability. In other words, if LDP compliance is not a goal, why are we even looking at LDP? |
…but continuing on that though, wouldn't the line be redundant then? So we can remove it indeed—not because servers don't need to do it (they do), but because LDP already mandates that? |
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I'm in favour.
I don't keep all problems at the top of my head anymore, but the assumption that we should follow LDP orthodoxy under all circumstances is something that has held us back for days and weeks.
LDP tries but fails to be a coherent structure, which means that you cannot really pick and choose if you say that you're accepting it as a normative basis. Assuming that it does created all kinds of problems for us.
Moreover, it was never the intention with Solid that it should be entirely LDP based, it basically just took the ideas of container structure, and took most of the HTTP interactions, because that is mostly just HTTP anyway. But all the strict interaction models and all that, that wasn't really Solid.
Just to mention a recent issue that illustrates how badly LDP does things, we cannot really rely on Basic Containers...: #194
It should be easy to implement Solid on top of an LDP server, but it should also be easier to write a Solid server from scratch than to first build an LDP server.
Thus, we don't want to totally break with LDP, but we need to relax some of LDPs constraints, Solid would basically not work with all those constraints anyway. This issue is simply one such relaxation that is in line with this.
Just checking that I'm reading this right -- With this change, Solid server MAY advertise container type in HTTP response header, so LDP Server (which MUST advertise container type in HTTP header) MAY also be a Solid server? This is just meant to make it (minimally) easier to implement a Solid server which is not also an LDP server? And to effectively make LDP compliance a value-add when comparing Solid implementations? OK. Resolve the merge conflicts and do it. |
Yup, that's right, @TallTed ! |
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Orthogonality of specifications.
Resolved the conflicts (reset, force push). Merging. Once gain, I'll defer to #191 for broader view on advertising resource type (with no particular dependency on LDP's "interaction model"). |
Given that URI path ending with a slash denotes a container resource, server does not need to advertise the resource type in Link header. The initial and primary reason to include the container type was alignment with LDP, however this potential compatibility between a Solid server and a client that's only LDP conforming is not significant.
Edit: see also #191