Org layer: There should be a key binding to enter the org-agenda from any buffer

[ocharles]

I generally want to view the agenda when I'm not already editing files in my agenda. For example, I finish a piece of work and need to know what to work on next. Perhaps we could have SPC a o, which is currently unused?

[cpaulik]

You are right. I think there also should be a global keybinding for org-capture which I proposed to be SPC C c

[syl20bnr]

Org is so important that we can add a convention for it and give it a global key binding. Pity that SPC o is reserved for the user :-) We could use SPC O but I feel that it should be left to the user too.

Any proposal for a global prefix for all org related stuff ?

[cpaulik]

I'm not sure if a global prefix is necessary. The only commands that should be available globally are org-agenda and org-capture. Am I missing commands? All others are org buffer specific.

[moesasji]

I think you are indeed missing one more command that needs to be available globally to make good use of org-mode, ie the command to store a link. From the org-manual:

The four Org commands org-store-link, org-capture, org-agenda, and org-iswitchb should be accessible through global keys (i.e., anywhere in Emacs, not just in Org buffers). Here are suggested bindings for these keys, please modify the keys to your own liking.

See: http://orgmode.org/org.html#Activation I think in reality only org-capture org-store-link and org-agenda are still needed as I think the iswitchb has disappeared in emacs 24.4?

[punassuming]

I agree SPC O is a good option. It is how I have been using my private org layer for a while now. There are about 5 org specific bindings that I have accessible in all buffers. I will submit a PR later today for review if someone doesn't already have one started for this. This could also allow other org packages like pomodoro and org-repo-todo to use O as well.

[punassuming]

Here are some bindings I have bound:

      ;; use O as org global bindings
      (evil-leader/set-key
        "Oa" 'org-agenda
        "Og" 'helm-org-agenda-files-headings
        "Oo" 'org-clock-out
        "Oc" 'org-capture
        "OC" 'helm-org-capture-templates ;requires templates to be defined.
        "Ol" 'org-store-link)

[syl20bnr]

SPC O is very appealing but it is like stealing a key that is reserved to the user, I know the doc says o not o and O.... mmmhhh
I could add SPC , to the reserved keys for the user and we take SPC O.

[punassuming]

How about making another leader, a localleader if you will, for users' use. In Vim, I normally mapped localleader to \. Granted though, this makes three leader prefix keys: spacemacs, major mode, and user

[syl20bnr]

It can be possible but it should reference a SPC something, like , leader is a remapping of SPC m.
So SPC , could be reserved to the user and we setup \ as a shortcut (can be modified in the dotfile). I like the idea. :-)

[tshemeng]

@syl20bnr how about SPC o for org mode and SPC . for users' use
SPC . is easy to press, and no worry duplication of names.

[jasoncyu]

👍 for SPC . for user use. I think SPC , is a little confusing since , is already the major mode leader SPC M

[louy2]

👍 SPC .

[mkaito]

👍 SPC . for user, SPC o for global org-mode.

[emmanueltouzery]

Just a little minus: in some languages you need to press shift for .

[sexptherapy]

I agree Org deserves the SPC o spot and both SPC , and SPC . are good solutions for the user space.

[mkaito]

@emmanueltouzery

in some languages you need to press shift for .

Well, what is the unshifted character on that key?

[emmanueltouzery]

In the case of the french keyboard from what i see online it's ; -- don't have one in front of me now.

[mkaito]

Shouldn't SPC ; be pretty safe too?

Edit: Nevermind, I'm dumb. Any suggestions for a safe alternative?

[sexptherapy]

I still think SPC . or SPC , are the best alternatives. You can't really take all the keyboard layouts into consideration, and that comes from someone using Dvorak. My . is your e. Even with the need to shift, it's still pretty easy for the poor French folks who by now are probably accustomed to entering periods. :)

[punassuming]

Where are we on this? Does anyone even use SPC o for anything? Typically if I want to map a new command, I set it up in my dotspacemacs config section, so it doesn't matter what spacemacs has already set. If we were to change user reserved binding to SPC ., is there anything in the source that needs to be changed?

[ZucchiniZe]

Is there any progress on this issue, because I would love it as a feature!

[TheBB]

I don't think there's any official ruling on this. FWIW I don't want to move the user reserved space. I feel the few global org bindings fit well under SPC a o (a for applications, which the agenda certainly is). That's my proposition.

[ZucchiniZe]

SPC a o sounds reasonable for the agenda.

[syl20bnr]

There are other global key bindings useful for org. Agenda is one of them, but capture bindings should be global too. I think @TheBB proposes to put all org global key bindings under SPC a o which would give SPC aoa for org-agenda. Am I right ?

[ZucchiniZe]

If you put all global org bindings on SPC a o to get to the agenda you would have to run SPC a o a a.

[syl20bnr]

Why doubling the a ?

[TheBB]

This is what I propose.

• SPC aoa: agenda
• SPC aoc: capture
• SPC aol: store link
• SPC aoO: clock out (for example... to mirror SPC m O, but we could make it whatever else)
• etc.

They aren't really longer than any other application binding.

[ZucchiniZe]

Why doubling the a?

Because when using org-agenda it brings up a list of things to select:

[TheBB]

Since the agenda is probably the most interesting thing, we can replicate all or most of those bindings directly on SPC ao, thus SPC aoa is agenda, SPC aot is todo list, etc. Maybe SPC aoA can be the regular agenda menu. That should still leave plenty of space for the 3-4 other global org bindings.