Hexagon dimensions picture

[finnp]

I am always looking for something like this, so I just created it for people who need it:

Also: Can we rename this to HexagonStickerSpec? There is a square sticker mentioned in the spec, but I think this is out of the scope of this project ;).

[iancrowther]

oh.. i just did 5.08 x 5.08 for my stickers.. whats with the 4.39?

[finnp]

I also ordered minn with 5.08x 5.08 from diginate and they did it correctly. Even though the width is actually 4.39cm, because of the orientation of the hexagon.

[iancrowther]

diginate worked out just fine

[terinjokes]

I'm open to accepting SVG images into the spec document. Something similar to what @finnp has done would be good, perhaps without the inches measurements, and measuring all the 5.08cm diagonals, and avoiding the (technically unspecified, but mathematically required) 4.39cm diagonals.

Also a similar image for squares, because otherwise the spec is uneven.

[joates]

my mistake, carry on..

The basic geometry of hexagons

[terinjokes]

The 5.08cm longest diagonal dimension comes directly from Max Ogden, who's laptop features tessellating stickers that this specification is based on.

It's not my goal with this specification to create proofs that define regular hexagons. There are much better writings in much better forums for that level of mathematical discourse. Instead, I've opted to include a more casual approach for folks wanting to create tessellate-able hexagon stickers: an image that depicts a six sided polygon with equal sides, interior angles of 120°, and a height of 5.08 cm.

Edit: The word "tessellate-able" is likely incorrect. While regular hexagons do tessellate in any orientation, hexagon stickers do not, as the SushiJS group found out, leading to the pull request that added this requirement. Most hexagon stickers are going to have some content, likely a logo from some group or organization. To ensure that all content from all groups are orientated in the same direction, we specify that a vertex of the hexagon is orientated at the top. The specification should likely have a non-normative note to explain.

You'll note, this is the direction I started down when asking @finnp to continue the work on the provided image. You called this image "ridiculous"; can you instead modify this image to improve it?

Edit 2: @joates does have a point, and I've corrected the above statement to better reflect what I wanted out of this response.

As you point out, there are simple mathematics to determine the width, or the length of each side, if required. However, popular image and vector processing applications already have the ability to insert regular polygons, so I don't feel including such mathematical detail is as relevant.

I'm quite fond of how it's currently defined and how the height matches that of the specified square sticker. However, I'm not against changing the definition if a better way comes up in discussion.

[terinjokes]

@joates I'm wrong sometimes. I wanted you to improve something, but one poorly worded and thought out sentence casted my entire reply in the wrong light. I've edited the above, and ask that you consider improving the image or the definition.

[rstacruz]

Can we get @finnp's image in there somewhere? It took me forever to find it :(

[terinjokes]

@finnp I added your image to the README, I'd love to get a square still to close out this ticket.

[mairin]

Hi, I'm a free software using designer and made both a template for the hexagonal sticker and for the square sticker as detailed in the spec. I followed Sticker Mule's template style, and allowed for a 0.125" bleed. Since I think it makes sense, I also included a border in the sticker design that is 0.1" in the final trimmed design (I went through a bunch of the pre-existing stickers and determined this is about the average width of the borders on the stickers that use borders.)

They are made in Inkscape, for Inkscape. Each includes 3 layers, "Template Text" with the instructions, "Artwork" for the sticker artworm, "Trim Lines" for the printer's trim / bleed / safe area lines, and "Preview without bleeds" which is a layer you can turn on to mask out the bleed so you can see how the final sticker will look.

Github won't accept SVG uploads so I'm going to link to the templates I made:

https://duffy.fedorapeople.org/sticker-templates/hexagonal-sticker_template.svg

https://duffy.fedorapeople.org/sticker-templates/square-sticker_template.svg

[terinjokes]

@mairin 👍 thanks. Any objections of forking these and including them in the repo?

[mairin]

Not at all, will do a PR now, just wanted to make sure they would cool with you.

[mairin]

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