Stary Network

[poria-cat]

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[Noc2]

Thanks for the application. But why wouldn’t you use ERC721 for these use-cases? Are there similar initiatives in the ethereum ecosystem that show that there is actually the need for a third nft standard.

[poria-cat]

Hi @Noc2 , thanks for the feedback. SubNFT is also using ERC721, it just needs some additional indexes to associate subNFT with NFT, so this is more like a special application of ERC721.
In the Ethernet ecosystem,NIFTEX can create and trade ERC20 fractions of NFTs. Starry can also convert NFT to fungible tokens , which can bring more liquidity.
Here is the updated protocol.

[Noc2]

Thanks for the update. Now, I have understood the concept and the reason behind it. Could you potentially integrate some contribution to the PSP process process as part of the grant. Is there potentially already an Ethereum Improvement Proposals that addresses this issue?

[Noc2]

Btw. there is a new Element/Telegram chat group for all things NFT on Kusama and Polkadot.

[rrtti]

@poria-cat Hi! A group of devs, PMs and designers, along with artists and NFT creators are working on a NFT strategy for Kusama network (already ongoing: https://kusama.polkassembly.io/post/303). The effort includes the development of Asset creator platforms (RMRK.app and PolkadotAssetJS - funded by treasury) and the development and maintenance of two pallets to be natively deployed on Kusama: ORML NFT pallet and a PoC NFT Gallery to work as a first experimentation in the direction of a native application. 

We would love to discuss your project to see how it could align with our efforts on this: let me know what you think!

[usetech-llc]

Most of these things are implemented already, we have 3 (or more) NFT pallets, refungibility (ERC1155) is also implemented and live on Unique. Ecosystem would benefit more from more downstream efforts to actually get that infrastructure to end users. More NFT wallets, minting solutions, advanced formats (like interactive NFTs), NFT relationships, advanced ownership structures, alternative economic models, etc., as well as real dapps - games, for example.

[poria-cat]

Thanks for the update. Now, I have understood the concept and the reason behind it. Could you potentially integrate some contribution to the PSP process process as part of the grant. Is there potentially already an Ethereum Improvement Proposals that addresses this issue?

Glad to be able to contribute to the PSP process. There is no relevant proposal on the Ethernet, the protocol content will be updated later. In the new version, Pallet_NFT has been removed, and Pallet_NFTDAO has been added.

[poria-cat]

@poria-cat Hi! A group of devs, PMs and designers, along with artists and NFT creators are working on a NFT strategy for Kusama network (already ongoing: https://kusama.polkassembly.io/post/303). The effort includes the development of Asset creator platforms (RMRK.app and PolkadotAssetJS - funded by treasury) and the development and maintenance of two pallets to be natively deployed on Kusama: ORML NFT pallet and a PoC NFT Gallery to work as a first experimentation in the direction of a native application. 

We would love to discuss your project to see how it could align with our efforts on this: let me know what you think!

Hi, it's great to discuss the project together and contribute to the Polkadot's NFT ecosystem.

[poria-cat]

Most of these things are implemented already, we have 3 (or more) NFT pallets, refungibility (ERC1155) is also implemented and live on Unique. Ecosystem would benefit more from more downstream efforts to actually get that infrastructure to end users. More NFT wallets, minting solutions, advanced formats (like interactive NFTs), NFT relationships, advanced ownership structures, alternative economic models, etc., as well as real dapps - games, for example.

Hi, thanks for the suggestion, Unique is an amazing project, Starry's focus is on providing better mobility for NFT, I will make an update on the protocol later

[Noc2]

Most of these things are implemented already, we have 3 (or more) NFT pallets, refungibility (ERC1155) is also implemented and live on Unique. Ecosystem would benefit more from more downstream efforts to actually get that infrastructure to end users. More NFT wallets, minting solutions, advanced formats (like interactive NFTs), NFT relationships, advanced ownership structures, alternative economic models, etc., as well as real dapps - games, for example.

Where can I find the open source code (for example ERC1155)?

[Noc2]

Thanks for the update, just to follow up on the above: Is there potentially already an Ethereum Improvement Proposals that addresses this issue? What do you mean with managing the NFTs in a DAO way? Do you already have a concrete idea how you are going to implement this? Also would it be possible to reduce the price a little bit further?

[poria-cat]

Thanks for the reply @Noc2. I have made some updates.

is there potentially already an Ethereum Improvement Proposals that addresses this issue?

Maybe it's eip-998

What do you mean with managing the NFTs in a DAO way? Do you already have a concrete idea how you are going to implement this

Added an architecture image about nft dao for understanding

Also would it be possible to reduce the price a little bit further?

Sure, Reduced from 14,000 dai to 12,000 dai

[Noc2]

Thanks for the update. I also started to look a little bit into it. As pointed out here it might not make sense to actually come up with an additional token standard for it. But there is also the Re-Fungible Token under development. So overall, I’m happy to go ahead with it and feel free to ping me once you start the discussion about a PSP. I will share the application with the rest of the team.

[poria-cat]

As pointed out here it might not make sense to actually come up with an additional token standard for it. But there is also the Re-Fungible Token under development.

Wow, these great references will give me more inspiration in future development.

So overall, I’m happy to go ahead with it and feel free to ping me once you start the discussion about a PSP. I will share the application with the rest of the team.

Okay, I will. Thank you for all your work on this. @Noc2

[mmagician]

@poria-cat That's indeed a novel proposal & I would like to support it, but in my opinion 12,000 DAI is overly excessive for the amount of work that the project entails.

Furthermore, thanks for adding the diagram for illustrating the operations of the NFTDAO submodule, but perhaps you could describe the details a bit more, or provide a couple of user stories to illustrate how the functionality of token management works from the different users' perspectives?

Lastly, some of your demo links are unaccessible.

[poria-cat]

Hi @mmagician , thanks for your review.

but in my opinion 12,000 DAI is overly excessive for the amount of work that the project entails

Okay, reduced from 12,000 DAI to 10,000 DAI. This is not an easy task because of the addition of NFT DAO.

or provide a couple of user stories to illustrate how the functionality of token management works from the different users' perspectives?

Thanks for your advice, this was added to Additional Information

Lastly, some of your demo links are unaccessible.

whoops, I forgot this was a page created using CRA and have solved the problem using hash router

[mmagician]

Alright, that makes a bit more sense now with the DAO, though I'm not sure about the extent to which people will use it - let's try and see. Thanks for the update, I'll be happy to support the project!

[poria-cat]

Thanks for your support and let's look forward to the future together! @mmagician

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[mmagician]

@poria-cat The ethereum payment address provided in your invoice and the address in your application don't match.
Please either:

1. Submit a new invoice with the same address as in the application.
2. Submit a PR to the original application to change your payout address.

[RouvenP]

hi @poria-cat we transferred the payment for milestone 1.

[poria-cat]

hi @poria-cat we transferred the payment for milestone 1.

@RouvenP Sounds great, but I didn't get some Dai. 😭

[RouvenP]

@poria-cat you're right, apologies - we sent it now :)

[poria-cat]

Thanks @RouvenP, now I get it, lol. Thanks @Noc2 and @mmagician for all your help during this time!
Thanks to Web3 Foundation for giving me time to realize my idea, I hope Starry's batch minting, fragmented NFT and moloch-based DAO that can use NFT as a tribute will help more people!