BSOD When if i closed 8 tabs on mypal quantum browser

[MWF2]

It Happen to BSOD to me, when if i any sites other tabs at same time like 8, when if i closed, it ask me to should close tabs, when i click close tabs to closed browser, and it appear bsod like for no reason, idk why, is way to fix?

Note: i use windows xp home edition for test on real hardware

[MWF2]

sorry when if is bad quality form my phone

commented image - not needed and slow overall page load.

[MWF2]

commented image - not needed and slow overall page load.

[MWF2]

commented image - not needed and slow overall page load.

[MWF2]

same with professional when after closed mypal quantum browser in any tabs

commented image - not needed and slow overall page load.

[Feodor2]

Screenshots are not usefull.
Can try BlueScreenView for useful data
Look first page

[pachuco]

I also experience bsods, occasionally.
bsv_minidumps.txt

[MWF2]

bsod after closed mypal quantum.txt

[pachuco]

bsv_mininew.txt
I closed a youtube tab(2nd tab open).

[MWF2]

bsod again after closed like 3 tabs.txt

[Feodor2]

Please give you hadware spec
CPU-MBOARD-RAM-VIDEOCARD
Did you try with disabled remote.autostart?

[MWF2]

Please give you hadware spec CPU-MBOARD-RAM-VIDEOCARD Did you try with disabled remote.autostart?

Mine Is:
CPU: Intel Core i3 M370 2.40GHz
Motherborad: VAIO (That it came in my laptop)
RAM: 8.00GB (3.29GB Limit it cuz is 32 bit of xp and i have dual boot with other os that is 64 bit)
VideoCard: Intel HD Graphics (2010) (Sometime Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD "2009" but i might upgrade to 2010 version instead of 2012, cuz everytime when i boot xp 32 bit, it start so slow when i'm on desktop, but it stop like any seconds later in 2012 version in intel hd graphics, idk why it happen when is 2012 version)
And yes, i didn't knew it about it, i disabled remote.autostart, when i closed browser again with any tabs, it didn't give me bsod anymore, idk why tho

[pachuco]

Mine are:
CPU Type QuadCore Intel Xeon E5450, 2833 MHz (8.5 x 333)
Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L v2
RAM 4085 MB
Video Adapter nVIDIA Quadro 600 (p1033)

browser.tabs.remote.autostart;false did the trick

[Feodor2]

Hmm the hardware is very differnt so not a point, to find other thing you both have.
Looked your bluescreen view data and found it not helpful too, do like this please

[pachuco]

krash.zip
Re-exported previous crashes.

[Feodor2]

@pachuco
You did two drivers only, while i want the list of all drivers, please do HTML Report - All Items.

[win98se]

Possible workaround: Disable multi-process.

Steps -

1. Go to about:config, search for browser.tabs.remote.autostart, turn it off.
2. Restart Mypal68 and re-test everything.

Reason (quoted from my own comment on #4) -

According to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Windows_XP, multi-process has huge stability issues with Windows XP, so the use case is not supported; Also prior Mypal releases (as of 29.3.0) don't even have multi-process, so such unintended incidents didn't happen on them.

And it may work as a workaround for #4 and #6 as well.

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i disabled remote.autostart, when i closed browser again with any tabs, it didn't give me bsod anymore, idk why tho

Above may also explain why @MWF2 does not meet BSoDs anymore after disabling multi-process.

[pachuco]

@Feodor2 I use Lower Pane Mode -> Only Drivers Found In Stack (F7).
Redo with All Drivers (F6)?

[andika207]

@Feodor2 caused by NTKRPAE.EXE ?

[Feodor2]

@andika207
This is what crash address shows, so yes indeed.

[win98se]

I'm noticing that he uses a PAE patcher (hence the different file name for the kernel executable), that might also cause extra problems.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22NTKRPAE.EXE%22&filter=0

[chrischris888]

Mine is:
Intel Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz CPUID 6.5.5, Intel H55 rev. 06, DDR3 KHX1600C9D3/4GX,
Motherboard GA-PD55-UDL3 v2.3, NVIDIA GeForce GT 430, DDR3, 1024, 128 bits
Windows XP Media Center Edition Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600).
I made the changes in about:config for browser.tabs.remote.autostart, and I turn it off.
I'll do several tests.

[chrischris888]

win98se

I changed in the about:config and MyPal is no longer opening.

[chrischris888]

irrelevant

[andika207]

I'm noticing that he uses a PAE patcher

@win98se this is necessary if you want to go beyond the limit of 3GB of RAM

[Th3Nigel]

На рабочем компе WIN XP SP3
Core i3 2120
3.2 GB RAM
При закрытии окна браузера рандомно были перезагрузки ( Я думал, что просто перезагрузки). Нашёл тут, что БСОД таки. Глянул - действительно БСОД, просто его почему-то даже не показывало.
В общем вроде помогло отключение "layers.omtp.enabled = false"
Пока за пару часов перезагрузок не наблюдал, специально закрывал-открывал окно туда-сюда.

[xrayer]

It seems that layers.omtp.enabled = false also helped in my case, I set it some weeks ago and no more BSOD yet :)

[consoleclassix]

I want to know if Mypal 68.13.2b is stable or not stable on Windows XP (SP2 or SP3 or both SP2/3)?

2 months after this, right now is October 3, 2023.

Will mypal get new version come out when get very stable without crash and let me know how going. :-)

[xrayer]

For me it works well now, no more BSOD. Only sometimes on some websites I got "This tab just crashed - restart" during load and the tab keeps crashing when reloaded.

[Feodor2]

Please make BSOD with https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/releases/tag/test
Put what !* files will be inside the browser directory
Next
delete these files
set webgl.disable-angle;true and webgl.force-enabled;true open about:support
do your broswing. Finally close the browser, what will you get, and what files will be created?

[MWF2]

yall everyone did test with newer version of mypal 68.13.4b to see if any bsod problem or not?
me: i was testing with newer version

[MWF2]

still bsod with win32k.sys with layers.omtp.enabled but something i notice it, when if reach to 3gb with much tabs, causing bsod with layers.omtp.enabled set to true, when if is like 1gb or 2gb it closed just fine now, i gonna test it on hdd on hp elitebook 8460p and even my old sony vaio laptop, i didn't test it for while due send my laptop to just fix fan buzzing when it didn't
Files About Still BSOD In Mypal 68.zip

[MWF2]

more bsod, but this time i didn't close the browser, i was browsing the web that did reach 2gb, not 3gb when i was scroll 0patch about list, it freeze and result, bsod while it didn't reach 3gb
BSOD, But this time when i was browsing, and it crash with bsod i didn't close the browser.zip

[Feodor2]

@MWF2
Does disabling OMTP still affect?
Looked your drivers list:
WHY DID YOU INSTALL THESE??
hpdskflt.sys 0xb9b30000 0xb9b34c00 0x00004c00 0x4d262170 06/01/2011 02:09:20 p.m. Mobile Data Protection System
HECI.sys 0xb8582000 0xb8592000 0x00010000 0x50cf7344 17/12/2012 01:32:20 p.m. Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
IFXTPM.SYS 0xb9af8000 0xb9b02f00 0x0000af00 0x4765ba4a 16/12/2007 05:52:42 p.m. Infineon TPM Software

Just in case check without them/

[MWF2]

i did test it with omtp true, but set it to false still, and the reason i did install drivers cuz i need full drivers working for xp, there problem, if unistall of Infineon TPM Software, it cannot unistall it, and if i unistall Mobile Data Protection System, it will install back again

[MWF2]

nope, still bsod with OMTP set to true, even i don't have 3 drivers installed that you mention it, and yes the year is different cuz i reinstalled it but this time with xp without updates pre-installed, while other one that mention is xp with updates-preinstalled
still bsod even i don't have installed 3 drivers that mention.zip

[Feodor2]

@MWF2

cuz i need full drivers working for xp, there problem, if unistall of Infineon TPM

Do you have a TMP and use it on winxp? Okey, though i very wonder

You told you get bsod without shutdown on the new version, this is very odd, i added shutdown of the OMTP which run only upon shutdown.

[enigma131]

Tpm have to be removed i think. Just FYI the latest official(Microsoft) ACPI driver under W7 make it hidden for my H310 machine, I think it is unnecessary under XP.

[andika207]

For me it works well now, no more BSOD.

@xrayer I can confirm so and it's the first time for me it works without prompting a BSOD when closing tabs

I have tested it with both preferences false or true and it works equally well so I will set it to true (default) because @Feodor2 said this string is associated to the browser performance
layers.omtp.enabled = false

[andika207]

EDIT: I have just got the first BSOD (win32k.sys) while closing the browser which is different from closing tabs

I'm going to revert the string back and set it to false to see what happens from now on. layers.omtp.enabled = false

[Feodor2]

Do as written above with test2 release
#3 (comment)

[andika207]

Do as written above with test2 release #3 (comment)

I don't quite understand your instructions and the link above is broken.

[Feodor2]

Uh yes the link was changed
https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/releases/download/test2/mypal-68.13.4.testotmp.zip

1. Please do usually things to get BSOD upon shutdown, after the recover from it you will see !* empty files inside the browser folder. Put the list here
2. Delete that files, set webgl.disable-angle;true and webgl.force-enabled;true open about:support, then do point 1 (make bsod, put files list here)

[Feodor2]

Seems BSOD problem is now mitigated, with 12f415a
Looking more feedback.

[MWF2]

after i test it with clean install of xp in no updates, bsod is not there anymore

[Lovecatsandyou]

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[andika207]

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[xrayer]

BTW, after a bit more extensive usage of ExtremeExplorer360 (Chromium based) under WinXP (after some 20+ tabs opened or longer maps panning and zooming) I got similar BSOD in win32k.sys like I got with Mypal before I set "layers.omtp.enabled = false". So it seems the cause of the bug is somewhere deeper in Windows than browser code. It can be only workarounded but not fixed without patching Windows. Do anybody knows if there's similar option for EE360/chromium that would workaround this issue?

[etssp]

Seems BSOD problem is now mitigated, with 12f415a Looking more feedback.

I was getting blue screens with version 68.13.1. Changing layers.omtp.enabled to false fixed the problem. I have now installed 68.14.4b and changed layers.omtp.enabled back to true. I have tried several web sites and so far so good! Thanks for your great work in fixing the problem!