MSC1719: olm session unwedging #1719
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Yep, this looks like a good summary. Thanks! |
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Actually the kicker here is that we don't know what session an incoming olm message was intended for if we can't decrypt it, so we can't mark that session as 'replaced'. Thinking about how else we could do it. |
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An example implementation of this is https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-js-sdk/pull/780/files |
| should assume that the olm session has become corrupted and create a new olm | ||
| session to replace it. It should then send a dummy message, using that | ||
| session, to the other party in order to inform them of the new session. To | ||
| send a dummy message, clients may send an event with type `m.dummy`, and with |
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Can m.dummy only be sent in the context of unwedging? If not, how should the client handle it? By ignoring the event the client opens itself up to problems similar to https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/3261
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Probably doesn't necessarily need to be in the context of unwedging, but I can't really think of any other reason a client would send a dummy message, and I think we could just define m.dummy as "Ignore this message". This is a to_device message, and won't be displayed in any way to the user, so I don't think it will introduce any problems in the timeline.
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Oh, I thought this was a timeline event. Would be good to clarify that it is a to_device event (if it isn't already - I'm willing to believe I just missed that).
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It's kind of hidden in the fact that the message is olm-encrypted. I guess that technically, it could be a timeline event, if you used olm for your room encryption rather than megolm, but ... let's just say that people won't do that. ;)
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@mscbot fcp merge |
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| When a device receives an olm-encrypted message that it cannot decrypt, it | ||
| should assume that the olm session has become corrupted and create a new olm |
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I'm guessing this is already working in practice - but sometimes I receive undecryptable messages that I can decrypt after a little why. Possibly this MSC is the reason it does eventually become decrypted? But I was always chalking it up to server lag. If the latter is the case, shouldn't we wait a little bit before attempting to start another session? Or does rate limiting make this all ok anyways?
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With megolm, if you receive a message that you can't decrypt, then it could be that the key will come in later, and then you'll be able to decrypt it. With olm, if you receive a message that you can't decrypt, then there's no way to recover, and waiting for a while won't help.
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| In order to avoid creating too many extra sessions, a client should rate-limit |
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Can a client DoS another client by ignoring this rate limit? Does the server protect against this?
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A client could drain another client's one-time keys, preventing others from starting sessions. There isn't really a good way of fixing that. Note that this MSC doesn't change what a client is able to do, so any DoS that one client can perform with this MSC could also be done without the MSC.
Co-Authored-By: Andrew Morgan <1342360+anoadragon453@users.noreply.github.com>
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LGTM @mscbot reviewed |
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🔔 This is now entering its final comment period, as per the review above. 🔔 |
As per [MSC1719](#1719) No known alterations have been made to the proposal. Implementation proof: matrix-org/matrix-js-sdk#780
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Spec PR for when this leaves FCP: #2059 (assuming no last minute comments) |
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The final comment period, with a disposition to merge, as per the review above, is now complete. |
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